[ale] ATI closed source graphics drivers

Sun May 15 20:06:18 EDT 2005

James,
If you jump up to the Geforce Ti 4xxx series or the FX5xxx series or 
even better the Quadro FX series you will see a huge jump in 
performance.  Of course the prices jump too for the cards!

The 6000 series are the latest and you have to really pay attention to 
what you buy to get the very best card and bus combo.  A dual SLI setup 
with the best card will cost $800-$900 for the two cards plus some more 
money for the dual port motherboard.

Someone is going to start porting math applications for science to the 
video engines someday.
Dow

James Taylor wrote:

>It's a Mobility Radeon 9700 w/64MB
>I'm runnning 1900X1440 at 24-bit on my screen settings, though I took the
>default for the glxgears screen size.
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>I guess I'm either real under optimized or I've got really slow chipset,
>because the best I've seen on all of my hardware for glxgears was around
>3400 on my desktops which use the NVidia GfForce400 card and the closed
>source driver.
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>-jt
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>>>>On Wed, May 11, 2005 at  9:14 pm, in message
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><4282AE03.1000603 at mindspring.com>, 
>Dow.Hurst at mindspring.com wrote: 
>What is the graphics chip/engine on the Viao?  2300 is not fast, I would
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>want to get 8K-12K on glxgears in the default window size.  If you 
>specify the window to be full screen and post those results that will 
>reduce the numbers and match performance to a certain vertical and 
>horizontal resolution.  Of course post the window size too!  Thanks for 
>the data point! 
>Dow 
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>James Taylor wrote: 
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>>This may be a little late, but I've used the the ATI commercial driver
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>on the Vaio I got a couple of weeks ago, and it is working quite well. 
>It was a little more involved than point and click for the install, but
>the directions worked like a charm on SuSE Pro 9.3.  I had previously
>used the open source drivers on a Thinkpad, but I couldn't get the
>commercial drivers to work.  I think I had a glxgears number around 1200
>on that one. 
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>>With the open source driver on the Vaio, I had a glxgears number around
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>330, but went improved to about 2300 with the commercial driver. 
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>>-jt 
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>>James Taylor 
>>The East Cobb Group, Inc. 
>>james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com 
>>678-697-9420 
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>>Thanks everyone for the advice!  I am completely impressed with the 
>>Nvidia driver.  We have a professor that will be purchasing a Dell 
>>Precision workstation soon and wanted advice on using the
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>stereographics 
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>>Crystal Eyes product.  After investigating I found this out: 
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>>www.stereographics.com is the web link 
>>The Crystals Eyes package does require a Vertical Refresh rate on a CRT
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>>monitor to be at or above 100Hz! 
>>It won't work with LCD monitors due to the above criteria 
>>A good CRT is getting harder to find due to all the LCD popularity. 
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>>Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070SB= $699.99 
>>Iiyama Vision Master Pro 514 HM204DT= $629.42 
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>>Are both capable of the 100Hz Vertical refresh at 1600x1200.  I think 
>>the Iiyama is better based on the specs. 
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>>The Nvidia cards and driver support using the stereo devices with the 
>>three pin DIN port to sync the glasses to the monitor's oscillating 
>>output of two images.  It is wireless as well.  You can't use it with 
>>dual screens though since each program that is coded to support the 
>>product hasn't been designed to handle two monitors.  I'm sure it could
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>>be done, but the tech guys at stereographics said the glasses would
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>work 
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>>for the monitor the program was displayed on but the other monitor
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>>look weird since the programs displayed there would not be producing
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>the 
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>>stereo output.  I'd love to get to experiment but I think only one 
>>monitor will get purchased at this point. 
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>>None of the above info is about ATI but I appreciated what everyone 
>>posted and thought I'd pass on this nugget about the stereo product. 
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>It 
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>>will be used to look at structures from protein crystallization 
>>processes on the computer inside of x-ray crystallographic modelling 
>>programs.  She also will use stereo vision to help see ligands being 
>>docked inside the active site of the same proteins she has 
>>crystallized.  It is too expensive to own the equipment to collect the 
>>spectra so national labs contract with researchers such as herself to
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>do 
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>>the x-ray tests.  Then she takes the data and works on her systems to 
>>interpret, visuallize, and work with the data. 
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>>Thanks, 
>>Dow 
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>>Dow Hurst wrote: 
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>>>Does the ATI driver work as well as the Nvidia one?  I don't have an 
>>>ATI based machine to try on.  It would sure make choosing a laptop 
>>>easier for me or recommending one for others.  I just need to be able 
>>>to recommend hardware accelerated OpenGL based performance on a laptop
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>>>but don't want a 10lb monster. 
>>>Thanks, 
>>>Dow 
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