[ale] NTPD issues

Ryan Fish FishR at bellsouth.net
Tue Mar 8 22:27:10 EST 2005


H.A.,

I have done this several times but the same issue continues to occur.
Within a minute of my starting ntpd again the following is shown:


[root at server ntp]# ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
 hickory.cc.colu navobs1.wustl.e  2 u   49   64    1   21.579  -1011.5
0.008
 ns1.usg.edu     ntp0.mcs.anl.go  2 u   46   64    1    2.137  -1689.9
0.008
 louie.udel.edu  128.4.40.20      2 u   54   64    1   25.657  -660.93
0.008
 rubidium.broad. .GPS.            1 u   47   64    1   38.042  -1414.5
0.008
 rackety.udel.ed PPS(0)           2 u   47   64    1   35.214  -1416.1
0.008
[root at server ntp]# ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
 hickory.cc.colu navobs1.wustl.e  2 u   55   64    1   21.579  -1011.5
0.008
 ns1.usg.edu     ntp0.mcs.anl.go  2 u   52   64    1    2.137  -1689.9
0.008
 louie.udel.edu  128.4.40.20      2 u   60   64    1   25.657  -660.93
0.008
 rubidium.broad. .GPS.            1 u   53   64    1   38.042  -1414.5
0.008
 rackety.udel.ed PPS(0)           2 u   53   64    1   35.214  -1416.1
0.008
[root at server ntp]# ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
 hickory.cc.colu navobs1.wustl.e  2 u   59   64    1   21.579  -1011.5
0.008
 ns1.usg.edu     ntp0.mcs.anl.go  2 u   56   64    1    2.137  -1689.9
0.008
 louie.udel.edu  128.4.40.20      2 u    1   64    3   24.961  -7361.0
6700.12
 rubidium.broad. .GPS.            1 u   57   64    1   38.042  -1414.5
0.008
 rackety.udel.ed PPS(0)           2 u   57   64    1   35.214  -1416.1
0.008
[root at server ntp]# ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
 hickory.cc.colu navobs1.wustl.e  2 u   62   64    1   21.579  -1011.5
0.008
 ns1.usg.edu     ntp0.mcs.anl.go  2 u   59   64    1    2.137  -1689.9
0.008
 louie.udel.edu  128.4.40.20      2 u    4   64    3   24.961  -7361.0
6700.12
 rubidium.broad. .GPS.            1 u   60   64    1   38.042  -1414.5
0.008
 rackety.udel.ed PPS(0)           2 u   60   64    1   35.214  -1416.1
0.008
[root at server ntp]# ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
 hickory.cc.colu navobs1.wustl.e  2 u   64   64    1   21.579  -1011.5
0.008
 ns1.usg.edu     ntp0.mcs.anl.go  2 u   61   64    1    2.137  -1689.9
0.008
 louie.udel.edu  128.4.40.20      2 u    6   64    3   24.961  -7361.0
6700.12
 rubidium.broad. .GPS.            1 u   62   64    1   38.042  -1414.5
0.008
 rackety.udel.ed PPS(0)           2 u   62   64    1   35.214  -1416.1
0.008
[root at server ntp]# ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
 hickory.cc.colu navobs1.wustl.e  2 u    -   64    3   21.591  -7611.7
6600.17
 ns1.usg.edu     ntp0.mcs.anl.go  2 u   63   64    1    2.137  -1689.9
0.008
 louie.udel.edu  128.4.40.20      2 u    8   64    3   24.961  -7361.0
6700.12
 rubidium.broad. .GPS.            1 u    1   64    3   27.784  -7609.6
6195.16
 rackety.udel.ed PPS(0)           2 u   64   64    1   35.214  -1416.1
0.008
[root at server ntp]# ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
 hickory.cc.colu navobs1.wustl.e  2 u    1   64    3   21.591  -7611.7
6600.17
 ns1.usg.edu     ntp0.mcs.anl.go  2 u   64   64    1    2.137  -1689.9
0.008
 louie.udel.edu  128.4.40.20      2 u    9   64    3   24.961  -7361.0
6700.12
 rubidium.broad. .GPS.            1 u    2   64    3   27.784  -7609.6
6195.16
 rackety.udel.ed PPS(0)           2 u    -   64    3   23.654  -7680.4
6264.37
[root at server ntp]# ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
 hickory.cc.colu navobs1.wustl.e  2 u    3   64    3   21.591  -7611.7
6600.17
 ns1.usg.edu     ntp0.mcs.anl.go  2 u    -   64    3    3.017  -7679.5
5989.62
 louie.udel.edu  128.4.40.20      2 u   11   64    3   24.961  -7361.0
6700.12
 rubidium.broad. .GPS.            1 u    4   64    3   27.784  -7609.6
6195.16
 rackety.udel.ed PPS(0)           2 u    2   64    3   23.654  -7680.4
6264.37


As can be seen above, the offset goes nuts instantly and the jitter follows
very soon after...

I have the exact same ntp.conf file (less one ntp server) setup on another
server in the same network (just set it up within the past hour) and it is
working fine:

[root at anotherserver ntp]# ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
============================================================================
==
 LOCAL(0)        LOCAL(0)        10 l   24   64  377    0.000    0.000
0.004
+hickory.cc.colu navobs1.wustl.e  2 u   30   64  377   21.855   35.685
1.837
+ns1.usg.edu     ntp0.mcs.anl.go  2 u   17   64  377    2.461   37.043
1.860
-louie.udel.edu  128.4.40.20      2 u   37   64  377   24.288    8.106
2.082
*rubidium.broad. .GPS.            1 u   21   64  377   29.630   36.062
1.768

This just makes absolutely no sense to me...

Thanks again.
-Ryan


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "H. A. Story" <adrin at bellsouth.net>
To: "Ryan Fish" <FishR at bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ale] NTPD issues


> Okay
>
> Stop ntpd
>
> run ntpdate  from the command line.   ntpdate (ntp server)
>
> This will run and display messages as it runs.  I don't think you can
> run this while ntpd is running.  You will actually get an error message
> stating this.
>
>
>
> Ryan Fish wrote:
> > I am using the same NTP servers on a box I have running here at home
without
> > any trouble.  This box has a dynamic IP assigned by BS on their kooky
> > schedule...
> >
> > Why then would I have the same result with different NTP servers just
added
> > today?
> >
> > Does it matter if the server in question is able to resolve the NTP
server
> > addresses but NOT ping them successfully?  I can ping all the same NTP
> > servers from other servers in the same network and from my home boxes.
> > Since I am also able to successfully run NTPD from those same boxes I am
> > leaning towards this being some sort of a network connectivity issue
which I
> > will need to figure out how to cure.  Make sense?
> >
> > Anyway, keep the ideas coming!
> >
> > Thanks again.
> > -Ryan
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "H. A. Story" <adrin at bellsouth.net>
> > To: <FishR at bellsouth.net>; "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ale] NTPD issues
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>Looks like a problem I had.  Some ntp servers will start rejecting you
> >>if you connect to many times during a period, to fix this I just made a
> >>script that only runs once a day to adjust the clock. This also takes
> >>care of the jitter problem.
> >>
> >>Keep in mind it may not be all you if you are on a dynamic IP.
> >>
> >>
> >>Ryan Fish wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have been successfully using ntpd on a RHEL3 ES server for roughly
1.5
> >
> > months now.  For some yet unknown reason the service just stopped
working
> > properly yesterday.  By this, I mean the service will run but will not
> > actually connect to any NTP server I list in ntp.conf.
> >
> >>>ntpq -p returns the following:
> >>>
> >>>     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
> >
> > jitter
> >
> >
============================================================================
> > ==
> >
> >>>*LOCAL(0)        LOCAL(0)        10 l    6   64  377    0.000    0.000
> >
> > 0.008
> >
> >>> hickory.cc.colu navobs1.wustl.e  2 u   13   64  377   22.013  -129454
> >
> > 4630.18
> >
> >>> ns1.usg.edu     ntp0.mcs.anl.go  2 u   37   64  377    2.586  -129254
> >
> > 6320.01
> >
> >>> louie.udel.edu  128.4.40.20      2 u   22   64  377   47.435  -129373
> >
> > 5099.01
> >
> >>> rubidium.broad. .GPS.            1 u   46   64  377   38.199  -129208
> >
> > 7104.82
> >
> >>>
> >>>ntpq -d followed by assoc returns the following even after waiting a
> >
> > couple hours:
> >
> >>>ind assID status  conf reach auth condition  last_event cnt
> >>>===========================================================
> >>>  1 59084  9614   yes   yes  none  sys.peer   reachable  1
> >>>  2 59085  9014   yes   yes  none    reject   reachable  1
> >>>  3 59086  9014   yes   yes  none    reject   reachable  1
> >>>  4 59087  9014   yes   yes  none    reject   reachable  1
> >>>  5 59088  9014   yes   yes  none    reject   reachable  1
> >>>
> >>>I have stopped, restarted and added more NTP servers but the service
> >
> > never actually starts working as it has and should.
> >
> >>>Any ideas???
> >>>
> >>>TIA
> >>>- Ryan
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >
>
>




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