[ale] Debian 3.0 as a server platform?

[James Sumners]

I have yet to hear anything to back up the "I need newer features"
statement. People that have a distaste for Debian stable love to use
it but they never give examples of it. What packages in testing or
unstable are necessary for you to run Debian on a server? Please, give
me some examples.

On 6/2/05, Stuffed Crust <pizza at shaftnet.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:27:02AM -0400, John Wells wrote:
> > Stuffed Crust said:
> > > Also, it's not "known working, secure, packages".  What you're really
> > > saying translates to: "fairly well known set of unfixed bugs with more
> > > unkown bugs lurking", as opposed to "known bugs fixed with unknown bugs
> > > lurking"
> >
> > Are you saying that known bugs typically go unpatched on Debian?  Surely
> > they have security updates issued?!
> 
> As I said in the very next paragraph:
> 
> "Playing the security card here is nonsensical, as security fixes are
>  just a special case of unknown bug, and they're fixed post-hoc as they
>  are discovered."
> 
> Yes, Debian-Stable promptly patches security bugs, and that's all they
> do.  But everyone else fixes security bugs too, so it's not like Deb
> Stable's policy of fixing their bugs via backports vs new upstream
> releases makes their software any more secure, as an unknown (security)
> bug is still by definition an unknown bug.  This policy makes their
> software more stable, however.
> 
>         Stable software is not necessarily secure.
> 
> Deb Stable's policy of backporting security fixes makes sense; however
> it needs to be coupled with more frequent releases to be truly useful
> for someone with relatively modern needs.  If someone has to resort to
> packages (or the whole tree) from -testing or -unstable, the "stability"
> benefits go right out the window, but you can do many more things.
> 
>  - Pizza
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