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lol I suddenly have a new ummm respect for the Physics department at Oral Roberts University.

I actually saw a Evangelical once on Television claiming we had found a Space Ship in Israel which was piloted here by worshiping Aliens to visit the Christ child 2 thousand years ago.  They flashed up news articals ext. to prove their story.  I was amazed at how positive they were that this was happening in the face of reality itself.  Asking people to have faith while presenting unbelievable stories does not promote any cause.

Some arguments are easy.  Christ ascended into the heavens because he has more lift than an Apallo Missile.  Hmm that was easy.  I don't think one needs to argue provable, verifiable elements of the universe do not exist in order to offer affirmations of God.  The reverse is likely what happens in these cases anyway.  Someone is lost because someones Education was lost, from a Religious perspective.



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> Of possible relavance is this interesting news article: 
> http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4133&n=2 
> 
> I'll just quote the headline: Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity 
> With New "Intelligent Falling" Theory. 
> 
> Michael 
> 
> On 8/17/05, aaron wrote: 
> > On Tuesday 16 August 2005 19:24, Jim Popovitch wrote: 
> > > Who the heck started this thread? :-) 
> > > 
> > > I'm surprised this hasn't morphed into Intelligent Design vs Evolution 
> > > yet? :-) 
> > 
> > Perhaps that's because there is not any real conflict between fanciful 
> > defenses of mystic mythology and the factual science which they inevitably 
> > affirm. :-) 
> > 
> > By definition, the "intelligent design" philosophy argues that the 
> > complexities of the universe and our human ingenuity are the self 
> > referential proof of an intelligent force underlying our existence. As this 
> > assertion relies entirely on scientific inquiry to provide evidence for the 
> > complexity of the universe, it is nothing more than another argument for 
> > evolution. In the end, the I.D. philosophy cannot deny the ultimate 
> > intelligence of a life system design which has autonomously produced 
> > reasoning beings capable of inventing and employing the scientific processes 
> > which, in kind, reveal the genius of design in the life mechanisms that 
> > underly their own existence and intelligence. 
> > 
> > Stating it another way, if there were a Great Omnipotent Deity behind the 
> > existence of the universe, then the best argument for this ultimate 
> > intelligence would be a universe comprised entirely of the cyclic, self 
> > sustaining and evolutionary mechanisms that human science uncovers and 
> > explores. The perfect intelligent universe will allow that its all powerful 
> > creator need never lift a finger beyond the Big Bang; just light the fuse, 
> > pop a cold one, sit back and enjoy the fireworks! There's nothing more 
> > elegantly intelligent than the idea of spark once, run forever! If there is 
> > an omnipotent intelligence responsible for amazing clockworks of the 
> > universe, then human ingenuity is the end product by which the intelligence 
> > of their autonomous, perpetual and evolutionary designs can be acknowledged, 
> > and our intelligent processes of factual scientific discovery are the 
> > ultimate homage to their genius. 
> > 
> > :-) 
> > 
> > peace 
> > (because the only sane nation is a nation at peace) 
> > aaron 
> > 
> > 
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