[ale] Debian. Grr.

[Preston Boyington]

how did it go?  if i recall correctly Knoppix is going to give you a "frankendistro" as it mixes testing and unstable.  (this can cause some people in the newsgroups to fidget apparently because of the possible upgrade headache later)

if you are patient with your dialup connection you can install debian over it just fine.  you can even stop apt (ctrl+c) and resume later if need be (re-run the apt-get command you stopped).

*sigh* i have my setup notes at home but can email them to you if need be.

like most have said, just do a base install and get your modem/network connection working.  then apt-get install everything else.

-- 
preston



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Knapka [mailto:jknapka at kneuro.net]
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:52 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] Debian. Grr.
> 
> 
> Hi Bjorn,
> 
> I'm going to try your recipe and see if I get any joy.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- Joe
> 
> Bjorn Dittmer-Roche <bjorn at sccs.swarthmore.edu> writes:
> 
> > On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Joe Knapka wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm trying once again to install Debian. My last attempt 
> was in maybe
> > > '98 or so, and ended in frustration before I even got the 
> machine to
> > > boot. This attempt is on the verge of ending in 
> frustration, though
> > > the machine *has* booted a minimal Debian system from the HD.
> > >
> > > The main problem I'm having is that "tasksel" and 
> "dselect" seem to be
> > > user-unfriendly in the extreme.  So far I have not gotten "apt" to
> > > install *anything* but the minimal system. I boot the machine, run
> > 
> > 
> > okay, the simple reason for that is that dselect sucks. You 
> should avoid
> > it.
> > 
> > If your machine boots, I think you are done with 
> base-config, but even if
> > not, my advice is this: skip doing any software installation from
> > base-config if it forces you to use dselect, because, as I 
> mentioned,
> > dselect sucks. Instead, install by hand using apt-get later, because
> > apt-get rocks. Here's how:
> > 
> > 1. edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the 
> internet, not the CD's.
> > If you don't know how to do this, I'm sure someone on the 
> list will offer
> > you their file. (The one I use is on my laptop which is off 
> right now.)
> > You can probably skip this if you really want to do your 
> initial install
> > from CD's, but you should check your /etc/apt/sources.list 
> file to make
> > sure it includes all your CDs.
> > 
> > 2. run
> > # apt-get update
> > You will have to swap each CD in, but that should be the 
> end of that until
> > you do the actual install.
> > 
> > 3. use
> > # apt-cache search WHATEVER
> > to figure out the package names of the software you want.
> > 
> > 4. run
> > # apt-get install package1 package2 ....
> > to install the stuff you want. dependencies are handled 
> automatically. If
> > you're doing a CD install, you shouldn't have to swap a CD 
> in and out more
> > than once.
> > 
> > 5. After editing your sources file to point to the 
> internet, routinely run
> > # apt-get update
> > # apt-get -u upgrade
> > to keep your system up to date.
> > 
> > Finally, if all else fails, you can use knoppix as a debian 
> installer
> > (although I *THINK* that forces you into unstable, which is a major
> > bummer. Anyone know if you can use it to install into 
> stable or testing?
> > that would rock.)
> > 
> > Good luck!
> > 
> > 	bjorn
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