[ale] linux recommendations

Wed Dec 22 23:57:27 EST 2004

Your right!  Thank you for questioning my sloppy research and 
correcting my possibly inflammatory remarks.

I ordered a handful of disks online many weeks ago and forgot about it. 
  When I received them in the mail I was surprised.   I loaded a machine 
up and immediately liked the interface.  I remembered the disk had a 
web site for more information so like any dufus I typed www dot ubuntu 
dot org and started looking for any mention of Linux.  Here is were I 
was really dense.  Not seeing any link I Googled it and just assumed 
that because of the name they were the same.

That's ironic because I work for NASA.  Yep, the Nation Association of 
Systems Administrators, www.nasasupport.com.  You would think that I 
would tend not to make such an assumption about names.

Any way thank you for looking up the facts.  You can see how much the 
supposed politics of the situation really bothered me since I already 
have to Ubuntu's running at home now.

On Dec 22, 2004, at 10:54 PM, James Sumners wrote:

> Dude, I don't think they are at all related. The driving organization 
> behind
> Ubuntu Linux is Canonical Ltd. I can't find any link between 
> ubuntu.org and the
> other two. If the two were linked I think that they would at least 
> share some
> _similar_ registrant information but they are not even registered in 
> the same
> countries. In fact, the person that registered ubuntulinux.org founded 
> HBD
> Venture Capital (http://www.hbd.com/) and has a personal site at
> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/ which doesn't seem to mention 
> anything close to
> what ubuntu.org stands for.
>
> So, I am having a real hard time buying the statement that Ubuntu 
> Linux hates
> America.
>
> #whois ubuntu.org
> Domain ID:D87432965-LROR
> Domain Name:UBUNTU.ORG
> Created On:11-Jun-2002 14:00:45 UTC
> Last Updated On:07-Dec-2003 02:42:34 UTC
> Expiration Date:11-Jun-2005 14:00:45 UTC
> Sponsoring Registrar:CORE Internet Council of Registrars (R23-LROR)
> Status:OK
> Registrant ID:R23-1283148-PIR
> Registrant Name:Ubuntu- World Forum Of Civil Society Networks
> Registrant Organization:
> Registrant Street1:C/ JORDI GIRONA, 31, ED. PL:001
> Registrant City:Barcelona
> Registrant State/Province:BARCELONA
> Registrant Postal Code:ES-08034
> Registrant Country:ES
> Registrant Phone:+34.000000000
> Registrant Email:UBUNTU at CATUNESCO.UPC.ES
> Admin ID:R23-1283139-PIR
> Admin Name:Ubuntu Ubuntu
> Admin Organization:EUETIT
> Admin Street1:C/ COLOM, 1
> Admin City:Terrassa
> Admin State/Province:BARCELONA
> Admin Postal Code:ES-08222
> Admin Country:ES
> Admin Phone:+34.937398215
> Admin Email:UBUNTU at CATUNESCO.UPC.ES
> Tech ID:R23-1220553-PIR
> Tech Name:Boris Martinez Suarez
> Tech Organization:UPCnet S.L
> Tech Street1:C/ Pedro y Pons 9
> Tech City:Barcelona
> Tech State/Province:SPAIN
> Tech Postal Code:E-08034
> Tech Country:ES
> Tech Phone:+34.934016214
> Tech FAX:+34.934012575
> Tech Email:hostmaster at upcnet.es
> Name Server:BACKUS.UPC.ES
> Name Server:EULER.UPC.ES
>
>
> #whois ubuntulinux.org
> Domain ID:D104329623-LROR
> Domain Name:UBUNTULINUX.ORG
> Created On:11-May-2004 12:12:27 UTC
> Last Updated On:16-Nov-2004 21:05:48 UTC
> Expiration Date:11-May-2006 12:12:27 UTC
> Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc. (R11-LROR)
> Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
> Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
> Registrant ID:tuxzJxt6HmC5zSik
> Registrant Name:mark shuttleworth
> Registrant Organization:MRS Virtual Development
> Registrant Street1:55 Beauchamp Place
> Registrant City:London
> Registrant State/Province:London
> Registrant Postal Code:SW31NY
> Registrant Country:GB
> Registrant Phone:+44.2078238538
> Registrant Email:mshuttle at hbd.com
> Admin ID:tuxzJxt6HmC5zSik
> Admin Name:mark shuttleworth
> Admin Organization:MRS Virtual Development
> Admin Street1:55 Beauchamp Place
> Admin City:London
> Admin State/Province:London
> Admin Postal Code:SW31NY
> Admin Country:GB
> Admin Phone:+44.2078238538
> Admin Email:mshuttle at hbd.com
> Tech ID:tuxDE679zTIXjKyC
> Tech Name:Host Europe Technical
> Tech Organization:Host Europe Internet Ltd
> Tech Street1:Portland Street
> Tech Street2:Beeston
> Tech City:Nottingham
> Tech State/Province:Nottinghamshire
> Tech Postal Code:NG92LP
> Tech Country:GB
> Tech Phone:+44.1159170000
> Tech FAX:+44.1158770213
> Tech Email:webmaster at hosteurope.com
> Name Server:NS0.INTERCITYUK.COM
> Name Server:NS0.BLACKCATNETWORKS.CO.UK
> Name Server:NS1.BLACKCATNETWORKS.CO.UK
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:29:46 -0500
> Mark Wright <mpwright at speedfactory.net> wrote:
>
>> www.ubuntu.org
>>
>> Will abundantly back up my comment to any middle of the road or
>> conservative.
>>
>> If you are of the Liberal.. er, uh I mean Moderate political 
>> persuasion
>> then you would prefer hearing "The organization that sponsors Ubuntu
>> is, just like the United Nations, concerned with the political well
>> being of all nations and the environment in which we all exist and 
>> they
>> take an active political role in the world to promote their concern".
>>
>>
>> I really didn't want to start a political discussion, just to point 
>> out
>> that the Ubuntu organization exists to further Liberal ideals.  That 
>> is
>> a bit unique among creators and maintainers of Open Source.   Not that
>> it is unique that they are Liberal but that they are a political
>> organization that just so happens to have their own distro.
>>
>> I imagine Al Franken would want to know if his favorite distro was
>> rolled by and only available at RNC.com.
>
>
> -- 
> James Sumners
> http://ug.dyndns.org/~jsumners/
>
> "All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts 
> pathological
> personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic 
> to the
> corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a
> condition to which they are quickly addicted."
>
> Missionaria Protectiva, Text QIV (decto)
> CH:D 59
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