[ale] need working dialup

Mike Terzo mterzo at mindspring.net
Mon Dec 20 11:29:19 EST 2004 

What's the username that you are using?





Mark Wright wrote:

>
>
> I am not up yet.  I am running out of time and options though.  I 
> wanted to get this box working for my mom before Christmas.
>
> Since you seem to know a bit more about this let me throw some more 
> information at you.
>
> I am trying to connect two ways.  First using the network settings 
> panel on Ubuntu's Gnome desktop I followed an excellent write up by 
> someone on the Ubuntu web site using pppconfig but still had no 
> success.  This dialer uses wvdial.
>
> After beating my head against this for a few days I found another 
> great write up by W.G. Unruh. (nothing to do with Ubuntu)  and I am 
> using a terminal window to run the show with the following command.
>
> /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 57600 debug connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v  ' ' 
> ATZ OK ATDT6782454201 CONNECT '\d\c'"
>
>
> I under stand most of this (because Unruh explains it).  The notable 
> part is the use of chat instead of wvdial.  In his instructions he 
> points out that by watching var/log/ppp I can learn how to modify this 
> long command to successfully connect.  This command does not contain 
> any UID or pwd information but it connects just as far and fails just 
> like the wvdial through the network panel.  The network panel has the 
> account info in it.  (User and pwd)  I have been assuming that none of 
> the earthlink account data was getting passed at this point.
>
> Right now since everyone I have talked to has had dial up working in 
> the past (with older distros) I am thinking about installing mandrake 
> 9.2 or earlier to see if there is something to do with the 2.6 kernel 
> that doesn't like Earthlink or US Robotics 56 modems.  I did like 
> Ubuntu's minimal gnome gui.  My mom is using an old Mac and I think 
> the gnome/Ubuntu look is Mac like and pretty.
>
> Oh well.  Any advise or comments warmly welcomed.
>
> Mark
>
> On Dec 19, 2004, at 9:32 PM, Dow Hurst wrote:
>
>> I meant that you authenticate in the chat script and not during PPP 
>> negotiation.  Arrrghh!!!  Bad thought process and worse typing here...
>>
>> In DSL you authenticate during PPP setup and after LCP completes.  In 
>> dialup you connect, authenticate in the chat script, then autostart 
>> PPP, or look for a tilde in the next few frames of data from the 
>> server to "see" that it is trying to start PPP.
>>
>> I've used the above method with wvdial and the full email address for 
>> earthlink/mindspring for years.
>> Dow
>>
>>
>> Dow Hurst wrote:
>>
>>> Did you get it going?  LCP failure is before authentication on DSL 
>>> but not on dialup since your chat script ought to authenticate you, 
>>> IIRC.  For Earthlink you have to have your primary email address for 
>>> the account as the login and the password as the password for that 
>>> primary email account.   I don't see your login and password expect 
>>> send pairs.  So your connected but not authenticated  so PPP is 
>>> ignored at this point.  At least for earthlink, I would connect, 
>>> authenticate, and the just start PPP on my own and forget waiting 
>>> for the server to start PPP.  wvdial does a good job of this.  Also, 
>>> you can demand dial in this situation.
>>> Dow
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am exasperated. (ooh I even spelled it right)
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying for three months in my spare time to set up a 
>>>> nice little Linux box for my mom.  She badly needs a replacement 
>>>> for here Apple IIsi.  She is on dial up.  I am a computer 
>>>> professional.  Whatever that means.  I have been repairing 
>>>> Mainframes since 85.  I used dial up back when every modem command 
>>>> and network option had to be entered by hand on whatever tty device 
>>>> we were lucky enough to have.  So why can't I get a Linux distro to 
>>>> connect to Earthlink?
>>>>
>>>> I have tried FC2, Mandrake 9.2, and 10.0, Knoppix 2.0, Linspire 
>>>> 4.5, and Ubuntu.  I have two identical US robotics 56K modems that 
>>>> work fine on any machine.  One of them was working on an OS2 box 
>>>> only a few months ago.
>>>>
>>>> FC2 had a strange issue with the modem that I corrected via a tip I 
>>>> found online.  All the others auto sense the modem and dial it 
>>>> correctly without help.  I get to the same place with al the 
>>>> different distos.
>>>>
>>>> From /var/log/message on Ubuntu:
>>>>
>>>> chat [24230]: send (ATST6782454201)
>>>> chat [24230]:  expect (connect)
>>>> chat [24230]:  ^M
>>>> chat [24230]:  CONNECT
>>>> chat [24230]:  - - got it
>>>> chat [24230]:  send  (/d)
>>>> pppd [24227]:  Serial connection established
>>>> pppd [24227]:  Using interface ppp0
>>>> pppd [24227]:  Connect :  ppp0  <--> /dev/ttyS0
>>>> pppd [24227]:  LCP:  timeout sending config-Requests
>>>> pppd [24227]:  Connection terminated
>>>> pppd [24227]:  Hangup  (SIGHUP)
>>>> pppd [24227]:  Exit .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have printed a three inch notebook full of HOW-TO's from the 
>>>> internet.  I have followed many rabbit trails.  I have read ppp set 
>>>> up instructions from 1996 but I have no answers.  I have tried to 
>>>> set up my Speedfactory account with a local dial up number to 
>>>> verify that it is not Earhtlink being funny.
>>>>
>>>> Is any one using a Linux machine with a modem.   I am willing to 
>>>> buy an internal or another external or really anything that will 
>>>> make it work.
>>>>
>>>> I have looked at every file associated with communication for 
>>>> config and privileges but will gladly go over anything again.  If 
>>>> you have a working configuration I would love to compare.  Sorry 
>>>> this is so long but I am only scratching the surface.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mark Wright
>>>>
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