[ale] (no subject) SPAM talk...

Dow Hurst dhurst at kennesaw.edu
Fri Apr 16 20:24:18 EDT 2004


Whoah....

You rebuilt from scratch your entire LAN?  I applaud your dedication!!  You 
get the Security Hypersensitivity Gold Star award! ;-)

Well, as long as you've hardened your boxes and patched as needed, you should 
be sleeping very very well.
Dow


William Wylde wrote:
> 
> Drew wrote:
> 
>> 3. Spam from harvesting. The ALE list is the ONLY list that I am 
>> registered
>> for that purposely broadcasts the email addresses so that they may be 
>> easily
>> harvested and spoofed. Yahoo groups, Austing Linux Group, the local PHP
>> group, and the forums that I register for have simply hidden the email
>> address so that it is NOT easy to harvest. ALE on the otherhand tacitly
>> ENDORSES spam WHILE hypocritically shaming spammers. While the ALE has
>> implemented a system that would stop this problem on a mirrored 
>> server, the
>> most public server still allows the exploit. Ironically, there are 
>> admins and
>> programmers on this this. Spam related to ALE accounts for most of the 
>> spam I
>> get. Anytime I hear complaints about spammers, or complaints about 
>> Microsoft
>> fixing their software, I reflect on the fact that "the best" programmers
>> don't either.
> 
> 
> I have to agree with you here, Drew.  That's the main reason I'm 
> subscribed to ALE via a Hotmail account right now.  I only use it for a 
> few things, and have a whitelist which will only accept mail from a few 
> lists and people.
> 
> I got a SPAM email- with worm attached- which apparently originated from 
> the sendmail server on this very box (behind my firewall).   I figure it 
> was probably spoofed, especially considering it was a win32 worm,  and I 
> had quit using the sendmail daemon at all on any boxes, but it scared me 
> enough that I wiped all my disks and started from scratch on every box 
> on my LAN- even though chkrootkit said all was well.
> 
> As you noted, ALE is the only list I'm on which publishes a 
> publicly-accessable and therefor harvestable collection of e-mail 
> addresses (via it's archives).
> 
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