[ale] Speed comparison

Christopher Fowler cfowler at outpostsentinel.com
Thu Apr 1 09:38:04 EST 2004


Does the P-IV 2.4 have 2x the  L2 cache of the XP-2400?  If so would
that not make it able to run faster and avid misses more often?

On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 09:01, Bjorn Dittmer-Roche wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Marvin Dickens wrote:
> 
> > > > It does not, the P4s, especially the celerons are dogs.  I have a 1.8 GHz
> > > > celeron and I swear my 800 MHz Athlon runs rings around it.
> > > > I've been underwhelmed by the p4 since there were introduced.  Any
> > > > processor that is slower per clock tick than the previous generation has
> > > > something dreadfully wrong.  If you must do P4, get a real one, not the
> > > > celeron.
> > >
> > > Thanks.  It looks as if I'll be skipping the system due to the Intel
> > > tax.  The XP must be better.
> >
> > FWIW, I always go with AMD. The only disadvantage I know of is that
> > AMD processors are destroyed in the event of an unnoticed CPU fan failure
> > occurs. OTOH, the Intel chips automatically shut themselves down when a fan
> > failure occurs and the temperature rises too high.
> >
> > I remedy this problem by monitoring the temp of the chip (Via ACPI...) and
> > when the temp rises to a preset value (This value is below the temperature
> > that would damage the chip), a script sends me an email. If I miss
> > the email and the temperature continues to rise, the script shuts the machine
> > down once a higher preset temp is reached (Still below any temperature that
> > can damage the chip. I have not lost a single machine using this script in 4
> > years. Although, I've lost a couple of CPU fans...).
> 
> Scarry. I think my bios offers such features (although I'm sure shutdown
> isn't super graceful...). What temperatures do you use as your warning and
> shutdown? What do you consider a safe temp for an AMD processor? (I've got
> an AMD 1735MHz, I think that's a 2100+)
> 
> maybe you could post your script? I'm sure it would be easy enough to
> reproduce, but rather than reinvent the wheel......
> 
> thanks for your comments.
> 
> 	bjorn
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