[ale] Question for Debian users

[Charles Shapiro]

And hey, whenever I get a new set of Debian CDs (or install a new distro
to a new machine), I toss $50 or so to Software in the Public Interest 
(http://www.spi-inc.org/). That's the folks who do the Debian project. 
I figure they deserve it for putting together such fine software.

-- CHS

On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 21:49, Greg wrote:
> ok, I am sold.  I just ordered (for $22.90 !!! - some of which goes to
> debian.org) 6 CD's for Debian Sparc ... and it looks like Debian will
> replace my desktop OS (i386 boxen) needs once my Suse 8.2 dies out (I am
> guessing Novell will burden Suse with all of the US regulations and such and
> muck up a perfectly good distro).
> 
> Thanks very much to all that responded.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> > Holmquist, Thomas W.
> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:40 PM
> > To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> > Subject: RE: [ale] Question for Debian users
> >
> >
> > yes, apt-get is the best tool ever.
> >
> > to install packages you do apt-get install package1 package2 (ex.
> > apt-get install mozilla)
> > It downloads, installs, and configures the packages automatically.
> > I run stable on all my servers, and unstable on all my desktop.
> >
> > another cool thing is when you first install debian, it only has
> > a few basic packages, (ex. a shell, text editor, kernel, etc.)
> > this way, you dont have programs you don't need and dont need.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> > Robert L. Harris
> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:06 PM
> > To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> > Cc: Greg
> > Subject: Re: [ale] Question for Debian users
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I pretty much have to agree.  If you want a system that is amazingly
> > stable and secure get Debian Stable.  I run Debian Unstable on all my
> > home machines.  In 2 years I have 2 things break (perl once and a
> > library the other).  Since Debian keeps packages local to disk it's easy
> > to roll back if you want as well as long as you haven't cleaned up.  I
> > usually clean up about a week after an update.
> >
> > It's also very secure.  Debian does roll out updates very quickly to
> > Stable for security updates.
> >
> > Upgrading from Debian 2.2 to Debian 3.0 was simple:
> >
> >   apt-get update
> >   apt-get dist-upgrade
> >
> > On my other machines I did this:
> >   apt-get update
> >   apt-get -y dist-upgrade
> >
> > which automatically did all the upgrade except for required questions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thus spake David Corbin (dcorbin at machturtle.com):
> >
> > > On Sunday 09 November 2003 20:02, Greg wrote:
> > > > I was looking at Debian (as RH and Suse seem to be waning
> > these days and I
> > > > have a more deep resentment over upgrading as I get older) and I was
> > > > wondering why Debian users like it over something like Suse
> > or RH ?  I was
> > > > also wondering what y'all do for a version upgrade ? is it
> > simply a "build
> > > > my pc" command and presto - the new os is done ?  Does Debian
> > keep up with
> > > > the latest kernels and linux apps ?  Is it stable ?  The homepage info
> > > > makes it seem to be a pretty impressive system.
> > > >
> > > > Also, anyone have any experience with Debian on a Sun sparc64 box ?
> > > >
> > >
> > > What I like best, is that IS stable.  It is very well tested,
> > and very uniform
> > > in it's behavior across packages.   Debian has 3 "versions"
> > available at any
> > > one time "stable", "testing", and "unstable".  Stable is just that, and
> > > consequently it is behind on many version, though Debian does
> > an excellent
> > > job of providing updates for security bugs, even to the stable system.
> > > Testing and Unstable are progressively more modern, and more in
> > flux.  Even
> > > unstable works "fairly well" most of the time, but you can run
> > into problems
> > > from time to time, if you update unstable a lot.
> > >
> > > The other thing that is great, is apt - it's easy to keep your
> > system up to
> > > date, or to install new packages.  Upgrades are extremely easy.  Two
> > > commands, and poof, I'm running the new version.  I've been
> > through about 3-4
> > > version upgrades, and it has never been a problem.
> > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
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