[ale] Question for Debian users

[Holmquist, Thomas W.]

Congratulations, good choice :)

BTW, the 6 CDs are not needed, they just contain the same packages as the stable feed servers do (minus security patches.) the first CD is all you need to install.

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org]On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:50 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: RE: [ale] Question for Debian users


ok, I am sold.  I just ordered (for $22.90 !!! - some of which goes to
debian.org) 6 CD's for Debian Sparc ... and it looks like Debian will
replace my desktop OS (i386 boxen) needs once my Suse 8.2 dies out (I am
guessing Novell will burden Suse with all of the US regulations and such and
muck up a perfectly good distro).

Thanks very much to all that responded.

Greg


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> Holmquist, Thomas W.
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:40 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: RE: [ale] Question for Debian users
>
>
> yes, apt-get is the best tool ever.
>
> to install packages you do apt-get install package1 package2 (ex.
> apt-get install mozilla)
> It downloads, installs, and configures the packages automatically.
> I run stable on all my servers, and unstable on all my desktop.
>
> another cool thing is when you first install debian, it only has
> a few basic packages, (ex. a shell, text editor, kernel, etc.)
> this way, you dont have programs you don't need and dont need.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> Robert L. Harris
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:06 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Cc: Greg
> Subject: Re: [ale] Question for Debian users
>
>
>
>
> I pretty much have to agree.  If you want a system that is amazingly
> stable and secure get Debian Stable.  I run Debian Unstable on all my
> home machines.  In 2 years I have 2 things break (perl once and a
> library the other).  Since Debian keeps packages local to disk it's easy
> to roll back if you want as well as long as you haven't cleaned up.  I
> usually clean up about a week after an update.
>
> It's also very secure.  Debian does roll out updates very quickly to
> Stable for security updates.
>
> Upgrading from Debian 2.2 to Debian 3.0 was simple:
>
>   apt-get update
>   apt-get dist-upgrade
>
> On my other machines I did this:
>   apt-get update
>   apt-get -y dist-upgrade
>
> which automatically did all the upgrade except for required questions.
>
>
>
>
> Thus spake David Corbin (dcorbin at machturtle.com):
>
> > On Sunday 09 November 2003 20:02, Greg wrote:
> > > I was looking at Debian (as RH and Suse seem to be waning
> these days and I
> > > have a more deep resentment over upgrading as I get older) and I was
> > > wondering why Debian users like it over something like Suse
> or RH ?  I was
> > > also wondering what y'all do for a version upgrade ? is it
> simply a "build
> > > my pc" command and presto - the new os is done ?  Does Debian
> keep up with
> > > the latest kernels and linux apps ?  Is it stable ?  The homepage info
> > > makes it seem to be a pretty impressive system.
> > >
> > > Also, anyone have any experience with Debian on a Sun sparc64 box ?
> > >
> >
> > What I like best, is that IS stable.  It is very well tested,
> and very uniform
> > in it's behavior across packages.   Debian has 3 "versions"
> available at any
> > one time "stable", "testing", and "unstable".  Stable is just that, and
> > consequently it is behind on many version, though Debian does
> an excellent
> > job of providing updates for security bugs, even to the stable system.
> > Testing and Unstable are progressively more modern, and more in
> flux.  Even
> > unstable works "fairly well" most of the time, but you can run
> into problems
> > from time to time, if you update unstable a lot.
> >
> > The other thing that is great, is apt - it's easy to keep your
> system up to
> > date, or to install new packages.  Upgrades are extremely easy.  Two
> > commands, and poof, I'm running the new version.  I've been
> through about 3-4
> > version upgrades, and it has never been a problem.
> >
> > > TIA,
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
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> > --
> > David Corbin <dcorbin at machturtle.com>
> >
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> :wq!
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