[ale] Opera 7.11 Linux Final is Out

Synco Gibraldter synco at xodarap.net
Wed May 21 11:16:45 EDT 2003



woohoo -- another person who gets it

On Wed, 21 May 2003, Chris Ricker wrote:

> On Wed, 21 May 2003, James Sumners wrote:
>
> > To write something off because they do not offer the source code for a
> > specific platform is absurd. And it is not a valid argument to say that
> > you must have to source because you are concerned about some security hole
> > it might create. I am sure that 99.99999% of the people who make such an
> > argument do not spend countless hours going through every line of source
> > code to every single program they have installed on their machine.
>
> It *is* a valid argument. I'm not an open source zealot and do use or
> support closed-source applications, but I do weigh the availability of
> source code when I'm deciding which app to use. It's an important criteria.
> I certainly don't peruse the source code for all apps before installing an
> app (I have for some, but don't as a routine thing), but when problems arise
> (and they always arise. Software sucks.), I value having the source to help
> identify, and possibly fix, those problems.
>
> I will, and do, use Oracle. It's better for many things than PostgreSQL, and
> features are more important to me than source. I will and do use Solaris,
> even though it's difficult to make any changes I might want (you can get
> Solaris source, but it's mainly useful as a reference into how it implements
> something -- the source releases don't track patches, and are rather
> difficult to bootstrap) because, again, features matter more than ability to
> change source meaningfully. I don't use Opera. It's not better than Mozilla
> (IMHO -- I happen actually to like Mozilla, unlike most people it seems ;-),
> and so source availability wins out....
>
> Those are my own personal criteria. Other people have different criteria.
> And if their criteria happens to be that they won't run apps for which they
> don't have source code (or even that they only run closed-source
> applications), why is that an "invalid" personal choice for them to make,
> and who are you to determine what someone else's personal choices should be?
>
> later,
> chris
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