[ale] Red Hat 9.0

Greg runman at speedfactory.net
Mon Mar 24 16:45:55 EST 2003


OpenBSD's file layout is copyright Theo DeRaadt.  The reasoning is to gain
revenue to continue the project, though it is trivial to create an ISO on
your own.  Considering that 99.99% of the folks who use it don't write or
help the developer's, it is perfectly reasonable.  I buy at least a CD every
6 mos. just to help keep the project up, even though I use -stable and
download and update via CVS.

The only thing that will keep Open Source out of the basement/hobby arena is
if some folks don't' start supporting it.  I have never feared Bill & Co - I
fear greedy folks who might gain a critical mass and reduce Open Source to a
bunch of hobbyists.  Downloads take $$$ to maintain and that's all there is
to it.  Developers like to eat now and then too.  For proof witness Mandrake
(sniff - my second distro) or Red Hat's financials.

Greg Canter

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of Fulton
> Green
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 3:38 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] Red Hat 9.0
>
>
> For real.  They've actually been touting the "early ISO access" as a
> feature of their "Red Hat Network" service for several months now; they're
> just now getting around to doing it (for releases, anyway).
>
> I don't know if this means that you wouldn't be able to get the individual
> packages and other files necessary at install-time from FTP.RedHat.com
> prior to April 7.  I would suspect that you'd still be able to get those
> individual files, just not in ISO form.
>
> And, obviously, ISOs will be available after the 7th from RH, bandwidth
> issues notwithstanding.
>
> What remains a thorny question is whether or not other entities such as
> CheapBytes would be allowed to distribute or sell RH9 ISOs
> ("de-trademarked" if necessary a la' CheapBytes's "Pink Tie") prior to the
> 7th.
>
> This is just one more way RH is "shaking down" us individual users for
> subscription revenue.  As long as they don't violate the spirit of the GPL
> (which is why I think they'll make individual packages available on the
> 31st, when subscribers will have early ISO access), I don't have a problem
> with it.
>
> FWIW, I think OpenBSD has a restriction that one can't create ISOs of its
> distro for mass dissemination, even though OpenBSD doesn't provide ISOs
> itself.  OpenBSD does, of course, sell CDs of its distro, and also
> provides the necesary files for installation, which you are welcome to
> place on a CD-ROM (but not sell or redistribute in ISO form).  At least I
> *think* that's the spirt of OpenBSD's restrictions.
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 03:10:14PM -0500, John Wells wrote:
> > Damn...is this for real, or some twisted April Fool's joke?
> >
> > http://www.redhat.com/mktg/rh9iso/
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