[ale] OT: more info on where all the jobs are (going...)

[George Johnson]

It all comes down to one thing.  If I have no money then does it REALLY
matter how cheap a company makes the product since I cannot buy it at
ANY price?

gj

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From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org] On Behalf Of Geoffrey
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:39 PM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: more info on where all the jobs are (going...)

ChangingLINKS.com wrote:
> I think that you are missing most of the spectrum.
> 
> Even if ALL of the IT jobs were to leave this country, I doubt "no
one" would 
> be able to afford software. Foriegn cars (in my experience) are
usually 
> better made - even to this day (ok limit this to Japan and Germany,
and 
> exclude many VWs and Audis).
> 
> I believe history showed that industry can leave places like PA and
Detroit, 
> and we can still have an economic boom in the future (late 90s).
America 
> seemed to go from agriculture - to industry - to IT (not a history
major over 
> here) and I believe that we can go "to infinity and beyond."
> 
> I don't believe that foreign policy (exporting labor, importing goods
and HB1 
> issues) are the leading cause of our economic swings.

You've noted that in each of the above industries, something else came a

long to replace the previous.  So what is going to employ all the IT 
workers?  If I can't find work, then I start spending less money.  There

goes the dsl, long distance phone calls....  I chose those particular 
'perks' because the relate more to the company I work for, AT&T.

So,  AT&T sends work overseas, and ex-employees, now are out of work and

must cut back on certain services.  Who's going to continue purchasing 
those services?

> 
> Drew
> 
> 
> On Saturday 15 March 2003 21:12, Mike Panetta wrote:
> 
>>On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 11:55, James P. Kinney III wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 14:26, ChangingLINKS.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>I value your opinion in this case. However, I don't think that
>>>>corporations are short-sighted, blind or stupid.
>>>
>>>Corporations are neither short-sighted, blind or stupid. They are
>>>single-minded. That single-minded purpose is bottom-line profit. That
is
>>>the only reason corporations exist. They will do anything to boost
that
>>>bottom line. As a rule, corporations have no morals. As morals have
no
>>>weight on the balance sheet, there is no reason to have morals. So
they
>>>don 't.
>>>
>>>If a corporation sees that they can produce their product for lees
cost
>>>that they are right, they will change production methods. There is no
>>>thought to any factor other than the bottom line.
>>
>>Isn't the bottom line kinda pointless if there is no one left employed
in
>>a capacity that would allow them to buy the product for the prices its
sold
>>for?  I see (or rather hear of) all these companies outsourcing all
the IT
>>work, and yet I do not hear of any of them reducing prices.  How can
anyone
>>but other corporations afford to buy any of these software products if
the
>>price is not reduced?  Even if all IT workers in the US went out and
found
>>lower paying jobs tomorrow just to put food on the table, how could
they
>>afford to purchase any of the products that are being manufactured by
these
>>companies?
>>
>>How can corporations exist without employees?  Someone somewhere has
to
>>produce what the company sells.  There also must exist a consumer to
buy
>>the product. A consumer cannot consume without the resources to do so,
so
>>they must seek employment at a corporation.  If all corporations
outsource
>>all their employees, they will have lost their consumers as well...
Or am
>>I missing something?
>>
>>I do not for see this as being anything but a disaster for the economy
of
>>the US. It seems that capitalism has failed...
>>
>>Mike
>>
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