[ale] OT:Atlanta Police make comp.risks!

Fri Mar 7 16:47:09 EST 2003

Erm, Drew.. And this is relevant to the Atlanta Police discussion how?

I subscribe to ALE for Linux advice/knowledge, as well as updates on other 
topics along the lines of the Atlanta Police Database.  (That's computer 
related -- I'd heard as much by listening to Fox News & a disclosure on one 
of the Atlanta News investigative team reports a while back)

If I wanted to be a part of the Iraqi debate, I would go into the Liberal 
Community on Live Journal and start a fight.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

Sincerely,
Jay

At 03:36 PM 3/7/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>A police officer walks into a neighborhood where his partner has recently 
>been
>killed on duty.
>The killer is on the run, and has not been found.
>A family member lets the police officer into the home of the partner's killer.
>He sees the killer's mother standing across the room.
>She is holding a butter knife.
>She is upset that police have been hard on her family and her people.
>She wants the police officer to leave and threatens him with a plastic butter
>knife.
>The officer draws his weapon . . . and points it at the mother.
>He is an officer of the law - and it is against the law to threaten him.
>He says "Ma'am, put down the knife," and she doesn't.
>She keeps yelling at him and swinging the plastic knife around from across 
>the
>room.
>
>The officer opens fire.
>
>                       Is the officer justified?
>
>The United States is the police officer - somehow Americans believe that 
>it is
>"above other nations."
>The United States has the most advanced weapons on the planet.
>The mother is Iraq. She did NOT kill the officer's partner,
>supports her son(Iraq allegedly harbors terrorists), and has LIMITED weapons.
>
>Thus, the Officer/United States is not justified in killing the mother/Iraq.
>The irony is that we use weapons to threaten another nation to disarm.
>
>
>On Friday 07 March 2003 2:44 pm, Charles Shapiro wrote:
> > Maybe we should move the meetings to somewhere safer -- maybe Australia.
> >
> > -- CHS
> >
> > (comp.risks 22:61)
> > **
> >
> > Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 19:21:38 -0500
> > From: "Fuzzy Gorilla" <fuzzygorilla at euroseek.com>
> > Subject: Wrongly jailed woman blames system
> >
> > Excerpts, FG-highlights and PGN-ed summarization of a long item
> > from 11Alive News, Jennifer Leslie, 30 Jan, 10 Feb, 24 Feb 2003:
> >   http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.asp?storyid=27020
> >   http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.asp?storyid=28128
> >
> >   "In the first part of this report, 11Alive News Investigative Reporter
> >   Jennifer Leslie focused on problems with some information in the
> > National
> >   Criminal Information Computer System that led to as many as 25 percent
> > of
> >   all arrest warrants in Metro Atlanta being inaccurate and incomplete
> > or
> >   invalid.  In the second part, Leslie's report focuses on what happens
> > when
> >   police officers arrest the wrong person because of problems in the
> >   system."
> >
> > Highlights (FG):
> >  * As many as 25 percent of all arrest warrants in Metro Atlanta
> >    are inaccurate, and incomplete or invalid.  This average is eight
> > times
> >    the national average.
> >  * It is easy to confuse two people that share part of a name in common.
> >  * It is easy to have cascading errors -- once the name was wrong,
> >    someone else added a wrong SSN.
> >  * Guilty until proven innocent -- if you lose your receipt, you can
> >    spend a long time trying to correct a mistake.
> >  * It is hard to justify success/failure rates if no records are kept.
> >
> > Mistaken identity (PGN-ed):
> >  * Melissa Long (8.5 months pregnant) and her husband were stopped by
> > police
> >    for a missing license plate.  After an NCIC check, she was handcuffed
> >    and jailed for 10 hours in a 6x8 cell with five other women,
> > supposedly
> >    for an outstanding warrant for domestic violence.  It was eventually
> >    realized that the warrant was for someone else with the same name,
> > but
> >    different middle names and birth dates.  The Sheriff's office had
> > added
> >    to the confusion by putting the wrong SSN on the NCIC warrant and
> > leaving
> >    other information unspecified.  Because she was already in the county
> >    computer as a witness in an unrelated case, the police used THAT info
> >    to fill out her arrest warrant!
> >
> > Expired warrants (PGN-ed):
> >  * Innocent people across Metro Atlanta are going to jail because their
> > old
> >    arrest warrants were never taken out of a statewide computer system.
> >  * Nicole Thomas needed a criminal background check to apply for a job
> > as
> >    a teacher at her son's daycare center in August 2001,  As a result,
> > she
> >    was jailed -- because of a warrant for an expired tag.  But that
> > warrant
> >    should have been withdrawn because she had already paid the fine.
> > (She
> >    was not allowed the customary phone call.)
> >  * One other similar case discussed in detail.
> >  * Procedures to prevent this kind of abuse are not followed.
> >
> > Error rates for the 11 metro departments:
> >
> > Atlanta Police Dept.
> > 2001 18%
> > 1999 1.8%
> >
> > Cherokee County Sheriff's Dept.
> > 2002 16%
> > 2000 22%
> >
> > Clayton County Sheriff's Dept.
> > 2001 21.6%
> > 1998 16%
> >
> > Cobb County Sheriff's Dept.
> > 2001 22%
> > 1998 22%
> >
> > Dekalb County Sheriff's Dept.
> > 2000 57%
> > 1998 40%
> >
> > Douglas County Sheriff's Dept.
> > 2001 7%
> > 2000 22%
> >
> > Fayette County Sheriff's Dept.
> > 2000 0%
> > 2002 0%
> >
> > Fulton County Sheriff's Dept.
> > 2000 80% (more recent audit shows 5%)
> > 1998 28%
> >
> > Gwinnett County Sheriff's Dept.
> > 2001 28% (more recent audit shows 6.6%)
> > 1999 31%
> >
> > Henry County Sheriff's Dept.
> > 2002 20%
> > 2000 30%
> >
> > Smyrna Police Dept.
> > 2001  16%
> > 1998  16%
> > **
> >
> >
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