[ale] Stress, via RH8 and confusion

John Wells jb at sourceillustrated.com
Fri Mar 21 18:34:45 EST 2003


Didn't Red Hat's main KDE guy leave Red Hat and basically fork the code
into a new distro?  I'll try to find a link tonight...you might want to
try that on for size.  Supposedly closer to "pure" KDE.

John

>
> Please be warned: this rambles. I appologise for the relative waste  of
> you bandwidth. Delete without reading
>
> OK. You made it this far, I guess that you aren't interested in free
> advice. 8-)
>
> By way of some background, I've been using Red Hat since sometime around
>  RH3.?, because they were the first to successfully configure my
> printer.  In the years since, I've gotten pretty used to the RH way,
> although I've  looked at SuSe, Debian, Slackware, Yellow Dog, and
> Mandrake along the way  with variable degrees of success.
>
> I picked up a new machine to serve as an experimental machine &
> compile toy (this is the first one I've owned to break 1GHz processor
> speed). I started out trying RH7.3 on this machine, but the video
> refused  to configure past 800x600 or so. I broke down, obtained RH8.0,
> installed,  and got the same results. I had a Radion 7000 which I had
> tried in another  machine without great joy, so I plugged that in and
> got the resolution  1024x768 (or whatever) I want.
>
> Fix one challenge, two more want to show up. I will agree with Red Hat
> that  the Bluecurve desktop is attractive in many respects, but I don't
> like it  and don't much want to keep it. Additionally, the menus have
> gone from  long to _much_lloonnggeerr_, which I also dislike. I also
> note that  two/three applications I rather liked in the past have fallen
> off the  distribution. These issues can eventually be dealt with
> obviously - this  is Linux, and RH hasn't made it significantly harder
> to work from that  reality.
>
> This may be my opportunity to at least try Gentoo, and before I fix this
>  machine up I may choose to do so. I haven't guessed/decided on that
> yet.
>
> What I appear to want to do is utilize a base distribution (RH by bias),
>  and rip out the annoyances so as to replace them with "good" stuff.
> When/if  things stabilize on the experimental box, then migrate the
> "good" stuff  out to the other boxen. I realize that apt-get has many
> adherents, and  may fit slightly better with my needs, but isn't too
> horridly shabby at  this point either. In my hands, and at this time,
> rpm _does_ grossly  interfere with the ripping out/replacing/modifying
> step in the middle,  where recompiling almost everything makes a fair
> amount of sense.
>
> I've got a horrid feeling that what I want is a Gentoo/Red Hat hybrid
> distribution with most of the rough edges filed off so I don't leave as
> many finger tips behind after cutting self in the process. Plus, some
> way  of at least semi-automating the updates process for security
> headaches,  not that a personal playground should have as many security
> issues as the  professional environment. (I think I can trust me with
> respect to security  breaches 8-))
>
> If I'm asking a question here, I cann't tell what it is. I might be just
>  venting frustration with being lazy, and wanting to go in a direction I
>  don't see a commercial carrier to take me there.
>
> What are the "I wants"?
>   I want to look at Gnome2.2(?) natively
>   I want to look at the latest KDE natively
>   I want to try openMosix as a cluster environment for desktop use I
> want to upgrade a card/subsystem, and not upgrade the whole system
>          software package
>   I want a girl friend who understands how to guard my back in the dark
>          alleys of life (ok, not linux)
>   I want some training on chemical structure software where I can
> _afford_
>          the cost of the software. (Chemistry is my background, although
>  for a number of reasons I've been reduced more to hobby
>          interest and involvement.) I somehow doubt that the vendors
> are going to help me out here!
>
> I could be silly and keep going, but I've imposed on the good graces of
> the list enough here. Especially since I _still_ don't know the question
> I  should be asking
>
> Thanks for listening, and allowing me the bandwidth.
>
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