[CHAOS] Re: [ale] P.M.S. Tally so far..
John Hastings
johnhastings at knology.net
Sat Jul 26 13:40:07 EDT 2003
I've tried out many distro's, rpm seemed nice, but sometimes you'd install
software, and nothing would happen, and I found that frustrating.
Originally I didn't realize that dependency of software components necessary
for operation of my package were an integral part of the issue. There ought
to be some built in way to say say "Hey! You need to install this stuff too
in order for this software to work." Who wants to read through man pages
the size of a new york phone book just to install a program? I think I am
going to columbus today to try some thai food, and see a cheap $2 dollar
movie at the theatre, i'll probably be somewhere else thinking about the
unified package management theory... (move over einstein... the world is
really about to change...)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Ricker" <kaboom at gatech.edu>
To: ale at ale.org
To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
Cc: "chaos" <chaos at chaos706.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAOS] Re: [ale] P.M.S. Tally so far..
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Geoffrey wrote:
>
> > I would go a bit deeper on the research there. Just because someone
> > says I use 'foo' it's the best! Doesn't necessarily mean it is the
> > best. Let's get some real data here. If your only experience with
> > computers is Microsoft, then it's going to be the best,,,,, and the
worst.
>
> Also, the questions and answers so far have mostly conflated two different
> independent pieces of software:
>
> 1. the package management system
> deb, rpm, slack tarballs, etc.
> 2. the front-end software used as an interface to #1
> apt, yast2, RHN/up2date, urpmi, yum, etc.
>
> Me, I tend to like rpm for package management, mainly because I find it
> easier to build software in rpm format than in deb format. Either are far
> better than Sys V packages, Slackware tarballs, and similar, though, since
> they actually do manage not just the installation of software, but also
the
> compilation of software and the dependencies between software (and both of
> those are critical when you're dealing with customizations across multiple
> machines)
>
> I often use rpm straight-up, but if I want a front-end, I use yum or RHN.
> They're both nice front ends b/c they work well, are scriptable, and scale
> well from managing 1 machine to managing thousands simultaneously....
>
> BTW, for all the apt fans, you'll be glad to know that yum is already in
Red
> Hat Rawhide, and apt will be shortly....
>
> later,
> chris
>
>
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