[ale] ping won't pong.........

[Courtney Thomas]

Jim,

I'm wasting time with this ISP. Do you know a local provider that is 
inexpensive and linux friendly ?

Appreciatively,
Courtney



Jim Popovitch wrote:

> Hi Courtney,
> 
> If your ISP is not hosting the newsgroups (something that is very common)
> then your ISP may also be blocking that type of traffic.  If your ISP is
> hosting the newsgroup then an auth problem is most likely the case.
> Depending on the ISP and their agreements with upstream news providers, your
> ISP may only deal with authentication to their news servers when you are
> posting, but your request to download news traffic could very well be
> handled by your ISP's upstream news provider.  I hope that isn't too
> confusing, to summarize: there may be two different authentications that are
> occurring in your case.  The first is to some mega news download server
> operated by an outsourced nntp service.  The second auth may be to your ISPs
> local nntp server where your posts are processed.
> 
> -Jim P.
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of Courtney
>>Thomas
>>Sent: Sunday, 06 July, 2003 16:45
>>To: ale at ale.org
>>Subject: Re: [ale] ping won't pong.........
>>
>>
>>Jim,
>>
>>I thank you for your additional insight.
>>
>>I agree that it appears to be on their end.
>>
>>A further problem to which you might also have insight [hopefully] is
>>that....
>>
>>  I can surf newsgroups, but when I go to post to one, I get an
>>authentication failure everytime [when I attempt to SEND the posting],
>>no matter which group.
>>
>>This seems to me to also be on their end, in that, if authentication was
>>broken on my end why am I being allowed access to newsgroups at all.
>>
>>Any ideas ?
>>
>>Gratefully,
>>Courtney
>>
>>
>>
>>Jim Popovitch wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Well, It's possible (not not too likely) that your new ISP
>>>
>>blocks inbound
>>
>>>ICMP packets.  If you haven't added or changed any
>>>
>>ipchains/iptables entries
>>
>>>then the ISP must be the reason.   IMHO, practices like ICMP
>>>
>>blocking are
>>
>>>counter productive and rarely implemented outside of ISPs that don't
>>>understand traffic engineering and proper network design.
>>>
>>>-Jim P.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of Courtney
>>>>Thomas
>>>>Sent: Sunday, 06 July, 2003 15:30
>>>>To: ale at ale.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [ale] ping won't pong.........
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thank you Jim.
>>>>
>>>>No, I cannot ping an IP address, except for the default indicate by
>>>>netstat -rn. I also cannot ping the IPS DNS servers or other web
>>>>servers. I can however ping the other boxes on the LAN.
>>>>
>>>>When I ping, say......www.apple.com.... it's IP address is immediately
>>>>found and the modem lights blink in normal rhythmic fashion, but no
>>>>onscreen pong sequence occurs, as formerly.
>>>>
>>>>I should add that I've recently changed ISPs.
>>>>
>>>>Appreciatively,
>>>>Courtney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jim Popovitch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Can you ping an IP address ('ping 12.0.1.28')?  If so, then you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>don't have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>DNS configured correctly (check your /etc/resolv.conf file).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>If not, check
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>your routing config ('netstat -rn') for a default route.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Jim P.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf
>>>>>>
>>Of Courtney
>>
>>>>>>Thomas
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, 06 July, 2003 13:54
>>>>>>To: ale at ale.org
>>>>>>Subject: [ale] ping won't pong.........
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Even though I can surf the web and when I attempt to ping, e.g.
>>>>>>www.apple.com....the dot quad address appears on screen, the
>>>>>>
>>repetitive
>>
>>>>>>scrolling pong response does NOT appear on screen, though I
>>>>>>
>>can see the
>>
>>>>>>modem lights blinking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What's wrong ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you.
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Courtney Thomas
>>>>>>S/V Mutiny
>>>>>>Lying Oriental, NC
>>>>>>
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