[ale] OT: Response to the State of the Union

cfowler cfowler at outpostsentinel.com
Wed Jan 29 16:10:37 EST 2003


On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 15:59, ChangingLINKS.com wrote:
> I have to agree with Ben here. Don't want to restart this thread either, but 
> Mr. Fowler your letter had grammatical errors, used the "t" word, and sounded 
> like a very pissed off right-wing conspiracy theorist.

For once I think the Dems have a plan that is worth considering. The
plan that he is proposing reminds a little of trickle down economics.



> 
> Your opinion is usually stated with more "class." Based on it's wording - it 
> is the worst thing I have seen you write - and I am wondering if you actually 
> typed it. 

Yea I wrote it.  But I code much better.

> 
> Drew
> 
> On Wednesday 29 January 2003 14:40, Benjamin Scherrey wrote:
> > Geez - you can't go begging people not to start a "wild thread" and then go
> > spewing crap like that on this list. We've already been through all this
> > and I've documented that most of your beliefs about what's wrong with H1B
> > is complete crap (and I'll wager to say I have more experience with H1B and
> > other worker immigration issues than anyone on this list and from many
> > different angles including being replaced by far cheaper and less capable
> > [er.. incapable?] foreign workers). Anyone who spends half an hour actually
> > investigating how it works knows it. Stop spewing your protectionist,
> > statist (, and verging on racist) nonsense on here if you don't want to
> > hear a contrary response to it.
> >
> > 	Take it somewhere else...
> >
> > 		Ben Scherrey
> >
> > PS: If you want a blatent equal-treatment issue how about the current
> > proposals to allow illegal foreigners to get state issued drivers licenses
> > whereas us citizens are now obligated to provide finger prints and social
> > security numbers in complete disregard to federal regulations prohibiting
> > SSNs as a form of identification?
> >
> > 1/29/2003 2:06:31 PM, cfowler <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com> wrote:
> > ><BEGGING>Do not run with this and start a wild thread</BEGGING>
> > >
> > >I wrote a very long letter to Bush in regards to his speech last night.
> > >I include a topic of H1-B.  I'm sending you my comments so you can
> > >coninue this by sending our people on Capitol Hill emails and snail
> > >mails.  I send him this long letter via email and followed up with a
> > >snail mailed copy.
> > >
> > >Here is what I wrote:
> > >H1B:
> > >
> > >Man is this a sore subject when it comes to the tech industry.  I don't
> > >have to elaborate but I hear many times a week when someone has been
> > >laid off and H1-B's still exist.  This could be fact or fiction but a
> > >question must be answered:
> > >
> > >"If *any* American IT workers are looking for jobs, Why do we allow
> > >H1-B's to stay in America?"
> > >
> > >It goes back to America needs to help Americans and that includes
> > >everyone.  You, CEO's, employees, and anyone else who dare calls them
> > >self American.  To me it is treason against your fellow American when
> > >you provide a job to a immigrant when there is an American standing in
> > >line for that job.  Would you not agree?
> > >
> > >Bottom line:  From today until further notice,  The H1-B program is
> > >suspended and all H1-B visas are revoked until unemployment levels go
> > >back down to an acceptable level of 0.0001%.  Makes since does it not.
> > >
> > >
> > >Please run with the ball and start the letters flowing out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Drew Brown
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