[ale] Computers for sale with Linux installed.

Jeff Hubbs hbbs at attbi.com
Tue Feb 4 00:10:44 EST 2003


It's Coyote - www.coyotelinux.com.

Boots from a floppy, does very little (a good thing).

- Jeff

On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 00:05, miguel wrote:
> >and one is my firewall and has no HDD running)
> 
> are you  runnig a firewall distro like ipcop or smoothwall?
> 
> cheers
> -miguel
> 
> 
> 
> Jeff Hubbs wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 10:41, Joe wrote:
> >
> >>Jeff Hubbs <hbbs at attbi.com> writes:
> >>
> >>>But if you do that, bring along a tomsrtbt floppy to check for the buggy
> >>>CMD640 and RZ1000 IDE controller chips in the Pentium classics.  About a
> >>>third of all machines made in that era have them and are to be avoided. 
> >>>
> >>Linux has had workarounds for those problems since they were detected,
> >>and they're enabled by default in (AFAIK) all kernels that support
> >>them. So unless you're looking for pure speed (and if you're buying
> >>a 5-year-old machine, you're not :-), they should be OK.
> >>
> >
> >Not necessarily.  IIRC, many of the machines with the bad IDE
> >controllers had the additional issue of them simply being wired up
> >incorrectly on the motherboard.  And, inasmuch as there is a conf0g-time
> >kernel option for buggy CMD640 support, the RZ1000 issue was a bit
> >thornier.  In any case, the buggy controllers are a bit of a minefield
> >for any multitasking OS.  All I'm saying is, if you can easily avoid a
> >bad one for a good one, do so, but if you get a bad one (I have two,
> >BTW, and one is my firewall and has no HDD running), you might consider
> >working around the problem by somehow not relying on that controller.
> >
> >What's bad is that Micron, which back in the day was one of the most
> >highly thought-of PC manufacturers (of those who made their own mobos),
> >made LOTS of machines with the buggy controllers.
> >
> >- Jeff
> >
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