[ale] OT: Anybody sick today?

David Corbin dcorbin at machturtle.com
Tue Dec 30 16:32:14 EST 2003 

I went on SugarBusters the in 9/11/01 (coincidence, but it makes it easy to 
rememember).  Lost 40 pounds in 6-9 months.  I've put a little bit back on, 
but I've not been following it as strictly as I used to, and my excerise has 
been "off" due to injury.  The realy interesting side notes are:
* after about 4 days on it, my energy level went WAY up. 
* overall I feel much better
* now, when I eat sugar/refined carb food, (hi GI), I got a bad headache.  
this is a great inducement to be good.  I've essentially broken the sugar 
addiction som many of us have.

Heartily recommended.  SB is really about careful CARB selection, and unlike 
Adkins, is balanced.  I think they say it's 40% protein, 30% fat, 30 carb.

David

On Tuesday 30 December 2003 12:35, Fulton Green wrote:
> OK, I'll "weigh in" with my opinions!  Har har har.
>
> I've been on Sugar Busters! ( www.SugarBusters.com ) since the beginning
> of the month, and I've lost six pounds.  I might have lost more, except
> I haven't had much time for exercising until this past Sunday.
>
> Sugar Busters! is somewhat different in that it uses glycemic index (GI)
> measurements as the litmus test for what to eat and what to avoid.  GI
> simply gauges the body's insulin response to the digestive processing of
> a particular food or drink substance.  As the name implies, the
> "standard" is glucose, which is assigned a GI of 100.  All other foods
> are assigned a GI relative to this number.  Unfortunately, regular beer
> is the one substance that produces a higher GI.  I don't know what the GI
> is for the newer low-carb brews.
>
> While some of the usual suspects such as the majority of sugars,
> potatoes, highly-processed grain products such as enriched flour and
> white rice are forbidden, some others, such as sweet potatoes and certain
> fruits, are allowable in moderate quantities.  Even certain whole-grain
> breads and pastas are kosher since their GIs are in the low-to-moderate
> ranges.
>
> Two other differentiating factors:
>
> 1.  Unlike Atkins and South Beach, there is no "induction period".  So if
> you find yourself slightly breaking the diet (like when I had two pieces
> of fried chicken a few days ago), it's not a dealbreaker.
>
> 2.  Unlike Atkins, there is a concern about just how much of the high-
> cholesterol products are consumed.
>
> Hope this helps someone out there.
>
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 11:33:14AM -0500, Jeff Hubbs wrote:
> > I've been doing a reduced-carb thing since about June and I've lost on
> > the order of 20-25 pounds; I haven't weighed this since college (and I'm
> > now 40).  I've had to shrink my watchband and my wedding ring, sized
> > over ten years ago, has begun to fall off my hand.
> >
> > I used to be a Raisin-Bran-for-breakfast guy; that went out the window
> > and so has pasta twice a week!
> >
> > I went basically almost-no-carb that first week and then went up to a
> > less severe but greatly reduced level.
> >
> > - Jeff
> >
> > On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 10:30, Eichler, Paula J. wrote:
> > > Periodically I "do Atkins" to reduce my weight by 10-15 pounds.  Most
> > > of the loss is retained water and a little fat.  It is easily regained
> > > when I go off the diet.
> > >
> > > This diet is for the "carbo cravers".  I love potatoes, bread, rice,
> > > pasta, beer, etc. and will eat drink and be merry until my clothes
> > > don't fit anymore.  Atkins effectively removes these cravings and the
> > > weight comes off pretty fast.  After a week, I have to remind myself to
> > > eat, because I just don't get hungry ..pj
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matthew Magee [mailto:mattmagee.md at netzero.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:42 AM
> > > To: groups at ChangingLINKS.com; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> > > Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Anybody sick today?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "ChangingLINKS.com" <groups at ChangingLINKS.com>
> > > To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:44 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Anybody sick today?
> > >
> > > > > > However, usually it greatly increases cholesterol.  If you go on
> > >
> > > the
> > > diet
> > >
> > > > > > > be sure to get yours checked.  While I lost 20# on it, a
> > >
> > > subsequent
> > > Physical
> > >
> > > > > > > caused my doctor to order me off of it permanently.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > > ..heads off for yucky diet dinner food.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I call "myth."
> > > > >
> > > > > My cholesterol was measured via standard scientific methods.  No
> > >
> > > myth
> > >
> > > > > in the numbers.  Anyone at risk (almost everyone on this list)
> > >
> > > should
> > >
> > > > > spend the few hundred dollars to get their cholesterol checked.  An
> > > > > extra 10 years of life could be the result...now back to our
> > >
> > > regularly
> > >
> > > > > scheduled geekdom.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > My reaction was to your use of the word "usually."
> > > > I was not doubting that your cholesterol level was raised.
> > > > The point is you seem to blame the diet, claiming it "usually" raises
> > >
> > > the
> > > level.
> > >
> > > > Then, you tell us that your doctor blamed the diet as well, and told
> > >
> > > you
> > > to stay off it.
> > >
> > > > And while respecting those facts, I posed two questions:
> > > >
> > > > The logical question is "how can you raise your cholesterol if you
> > > > are
> > >
> > > eating less of it?"
> > >
> > > This question reminds me of what people said about the negative effects
> > > of
> > > emissions reducing equipment on 1970's vintage cars.  When the
> > > automakers
> > > were forced to reduce emissions in the early 70's, their methods had
> > > the unfortunate effect of making the engines less fuel efficient.  The
> > > question
> > > was (and still is) "how can you burn more fuel, but make less
> > > pollution?"
> > > The answer is simple...... it's how you combine it.  If I read right,
> > > the
> > > atkins diet is supposed to "reprogram" your body to be more efficient
> > > with
> > > its food.  The idea is that all those carbs screw around with your
> > > metabolism, and make you fat indirectly by ruining your chemistry.  So,
> > > the
> > > very reason that the Atkins diet can work for one factor (weight) it
> > > could
> > > have an adverse effect on another factor (cholesterol).  Your body is
> > > not
> > > simply a cholesterol collection device.  It processes cholesterol based
> > > on
> > > many factors.   This logically explains why some people can take
> > > drastic measures to reduce their cholesterol intake and take
> > > medication, but still
> > > have outrageously high levels in their bloodstream.  This being true, I
> > > can
> > > see how it could be posssible that even if you take in less
> > > cholesterol, you
> > > may end up with more in your system.
> > >
> > > Maybe Dow could shed some light on this, as he is a chemistry guy.
> > >
> > > > The second question is "if you are eating more cholesterol on the
> > > > diet
> > >
> > > . .
> > > . why?"
> > >
> > > > And now: What would happen if you binged that "diet" food you are
> > >
> > > eating
> > > now?
> > >
> > > > -course you don't have to answer any of that, I was just clarifying-
> > > > -back to our regularly scheduled geekdom-
> > > > --
> > > > Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter,
> > > > Drew Brown
> > > > http://www.ChangingLINKS.com
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