[ale] OT: OT OT OT and very long! Anybody sick today?

[Greg]

I think what Rhiannon is getting towards is a diet that was put forth by
Dean Ornish, MD who is not a fan of Dr. Atkins.  Ornish was suggested to me
by a friend who is also a MD and what is written in Ornish's book "Eat More,
Weigh Less" makes common sense.  He (Ornish) talks about the difference
between simple and complex carbs and how many confuse the two and set
themselves up for disaster.  Cholesterol, insulin, and heart disease are
also discussed.  Ornish also uses studies to support his position and to
refute others (i.e. no proof Atkins diet works w/o damage and many studies
label it a "nightmare") as opposed to bullshit pseudo-science.  Ornish also
touts a way of eating that is a way of living and not a temporary diet - in
all a more holistic (or systemic for those of an engineering bent) approach.
250 recipes are included, but they are more fancy restaurant and less Kroger
to be really practical.

I am sorry about the lack of details (I wanted to put in some excerpts from
the book) but I have been typing so much today that I have reached the point
where I am spending more time editing errors then typing. The reason ? -
trying to get a decent OS on my SunBlade 100. Debian CD's are a no-go and no
one but Sun & Solaris can get the dammed floppy drive to work.  What a
dichotomy of architecture - the best and worst in one box.

Greg

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> Eichler, Paula J.
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:20 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: RE: [ale] OT: OT OT OT and very long! Anybody sick today?
>
>
> Rhiannon, thanks for all of the information. Agreed that most of the
> "carbs" of today are crap, however, Atkins, et. al. aren't really "high
> protein" but are "low carb".
>
> Another misconception is that you can't eat fruits and veggies.  Not so.
> White sugar and flour are no-no's, but lettuce is a freebie, and after
> the first weeks, adding raw veggies is allowed.  Later you can add most
> fruits, especially the berries.  Nuts are allowed. Starchy vegetables
> are reduced, but allowed in very small quantities.  Whole grains are OK
> in moderation, but it can be difficult to find breads that you would
> actually want to eat.  Nature's Own has come out with a pretty good
> low-carb wheat bread.
>
> After awhile on it, I would guess that the maintenance Atkins diet is
> more like a caveman diet than the "food pyramid".  Meats, nuts and
> berries are about all that hunting and gathering will provide. Well, yea
> and insects, which I am sure would be allowed under Atkins ;) ..pj
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