[ale] OT: Anybody sick today?

Tue Dec 30 12:12:51 EST 2003

Unfortunately, most of the weight lost in the initial few weeks of the
Atkins diet is water; your body has started to burn slightly higher ratios
of fats to carbohydrates, and fat burning uses up significantly more water.

Also, I've never been a fan of treating symptoms. Most often, being
overweight is a symptom of larger health concerns--bad eating habits, lack
of exercise, etc. What you need to be treating is your health, not the
weight. While Atkins may do a great job of dropping those scale numbers, it
also does a nice job of completely messing up the chemistry your body was
designed to handle, which can't be healthy. And in the end, it's not the
numbers on the scale that determine how long your heart keeps ticking, but
the other ones which get ignored when people equate being thin and light
with being healthy.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Hubbs" <hbbs at comcast.net>
To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:33 AM
Subject: RE: [ale] OT: Anybody sick today?

> I've been doing a reduced-carb thing since about June and I've lost on
> the order of 20-25 pounds; I haven't weighed this since college (and I'm
> now 40).  I've had to shrink my watchband and my wedding ring, sized
> over ten years ago, has begun to fall off my hand.
>
> I used to be a Raisin-Bran-for-breakfast guy; that went out the window
> and so has pasta twice a week!
>
> I went basically almost-no-carb that first week and then went up to a
> less severe but greatly reduced level.
>
> - Jeff
>
> On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 10:30, Eichler, Paula J. wrote:
> > Periodically I "do Atkins" to reduce my weight by 10-15 pounds.  Most of
> > the loss is retained water and a little fat.  It is easily regained when
> > I go off the diet.
> >
> > This diet is for the "carbo cravers".  I love potatoes, bread, rice,
> > pasta, beer, etc. and will eat drink and be merry until my clothes don't
> > fit anymore.  Atkins effectively removes these cravings and the weight
> > comes off pretty fast.  After a week, I have to remind myself to eat,
> > because I just don't get hungry ..pj
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Magee [mailto:mattmagee.md at netzero.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:42 AM
> > To: groups at ChangingLINKS.com; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> > Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Anybody sick today?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "ChangingLINKS.com" <groups at ChangingLINKS.com>
> > To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Anybody sick today?
> >
> >
> > > > > However, usually it greatly increases cholesterol.  If you go on
> > the
> > diet
> > > > > > be sure to get yours checked.  While I lost 20# on it, a
> > subsequent
> > Physical
> > > > > > caused my doctor to order me off of it permanently.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > ..heads off for yucky diet dinner food.
> > > >
> > > > > I call "myth."
> > > > My cholesterol was measured via standard scientific methods.  No
> > myth
> > > > in the numbers.  Anyone at risk (almost everyone on this list)
> > should
> > > > spend the few hundred dollars to get their cholesterol checked.  An
> > > > extra 10 years of life could be the result...now back to our
> > regularly
> > > > scheduled geekdom.
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > >
> > > My reaction was to your use of the word "usually."
> > > I was not doubting that your cholesterol level was raised.
> > > The point is you seem to blame the diet, claiming it "usually" raises
> > the
> > level.
> > > Then, you tell us that your doctor blamed the diet as well, and told
> > you
> > to stay off it.
> > > And while respecting those facts, I posed two questions:
> > >
> > > The logical question is "how can you raise your cholesterol if you are
> > eating less of it?"
> >
> > This question reminds me of what people said about the negative effects
> > of
> > emissions reducing equipment on 1970's vintage cars.  When the
> > automakers
> > were forced to reduce emissions in the early 70's, their methods had the
> > unfortunate effect of making the engines less fuel efficient.  The
> > question
> > was (and still is) "how can you burn more fuel, but make less
> > pollution?"
> > The answer is simple...... it's how you combine it.  If I read right,
> > the
> > atkins diet is supposed to "reprogram" your body to be more efficient
> > with
> > its food.  The idea is that all those carbs screw around with your
> > metabolism, and make you fat indirectly by ruining your chemistry.  So,
> > the
> > very reason that the Atkins diet can work for one factor (weight) it
> > could
> > have an adverse effect on another factor (cholesterol).  Your body is
> > not
> > simply a cholesterol collection device.  It processes cholesterol based
> > on
> > many factors.   This logically explains why some people can take drastic
> > measures to reduce their cholesterol intake and take medication, but
> > still
> > have outrageously high levels in their bloodstream.  This being true, I
> > can
> > see how it could be posssible that even if you take in less cholesterol,
> > you
> > may end up with more in your system.
> >
> > Maybe Dow could shed some light on this, as he is a chemistry guy.
> >
> > > The second question is "if you are eating more cholesterol on the diet
> > . .
> > . why?"
> > > And now: What would happen if you binged that "diet" food you are
> > eating
> > now?
> > >
> > > -course you don't have to answer any of that, I was just clarifying-
> > > -back to our regularly scheduled geekdom-
> > > -- 
> > > Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter,
> > > Drew Brown
> > > http://www.ChangingLINKS.com
> > >
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