[ale] [OT] Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent or Not.

[da Black Baron]

On Monday 25 August 2003 06:48 pm, ChangingLINKS.com scratched their ass, 
sniffed their finger and quoth:


> you have not thought much about of how "free will" (The power of making
> free choices that are unconstrained by external circumstances or by an
> agency such as fate or divine will) conflicts with Divine Will.

Ah, c'mon.  "Foreknowledge" doesn't imply a lack of randomness in a system, 
nor does it say a lot about how much randomness (chaos) a system contains.  

In a limited sense, we can see this in a fractal equation which will produce a 
"dragon" which consistently contains certain characteristics and features in 
a predictable way.

"Foreknowlege" implys being outside of time, able to view it as a whole or 
selcted parts thereof- i.e. observation from dimension "n", which is outside 
of time as we perceive it (black holes come to mind as observable 
manifestations of something existing "outside" of time as we perceive it).  
It neither implies nor denies the ability to tweak the random factors of a 
given system, as well.

I don't see knowing the outcome of a random event takes away the random 
factors which came together to cause the event.

I take it that you're also assuming that the existance of "the devil" and 
"evil" are not part of the "Divine Will"...  ?

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