Obtuse code was Re: [ale] Ernie Ball says F.Y.

[Jim Philips]

Christopher Ness wrote:
> I wish Freshmeat--or
> 
>>somebody--would rate open source programs for complexity of
>>dependencies. A system like:
>>
>>standard Gnome2 + _______________________________
>>standard KDE +    _______________________________
> 
> 
> Which standard KDE - its one of the worst! Nothing from previous versions will 
> compile on current versions and warning will say "version 2.2 or better" and 
> not work on 2.2.1.

I have to disagree on this. With KDE3, if you install compatible 
versions of QT, arts, kdebase and kdelibs, you should be able to compile 
and run any KDE3 program. With Gnome, you never know when you're going 
to have to add a new package--or another 5 new ones--to get a single new 
program to run. Look at the way Gnome's released and then look at the 
way KDE's released. KDE puts everything needed in to the four packages I 
mention above (although the idiots at RedHat break these down into lots 
of smaller packages). Also, I'm still looking forward to the day I can 
delete all Gnome 1.2 packages and forget about it. But that day doesn't 
seem to be coming anytime soon. Whenever I go to delete them, I find 
about a dozen programs that still depend on them. And this after 
converting Gimp and Mozilla to Gnome 2. Look on Freshmeat and you still 
find dozens of programs built against the old Gnome libs, including 
GnuCash, which is one of the few Gnome programs I consider to be 
essential and best of breed. Anybody serious about KDE converted 
completely to KDE3 a long time ago.

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