[ale] KDE reinstall
Nathan J. Underwood
lists at cybertechcafe.net
Thu Aug 7 14:14:08 EDT 2003
Andy,
When you're doing the uninstall (without nodeps), be very consious of the
'stuff' that it says won't work (this is a lesson that I've learned over, and
over, and over, and over ....). I had gotten to the point with RH that if I
wanted to completely uninstall / reinstall something, often times I'd just see
what uninstalling it would break, uninstall much of that, and start from
scratch. On that note (another little trick that I've found). If you do this,
and end up reinstalling a bunch of stuff that requires one thing and the other
thing to install, this has worked for me. Move all of your RPM's into a
directory (I usually use /usr/src, or /tmp), and type rpm -ivh * (I think that
was the correct syntax), and RH will work out the dependancies (as long as you
have everything that it thinks that it needs. Otherwise, it'll tell you).
Another handy option with RPM (in the event that you're just wanting to upgrade)
is rpm -Uvh (upgrade, verbose, hash marks).
Nathan
Quoting "Zyman, Andy" <zymana at hra.nyc.gov>:
> Nathan,
> I really appreciate your answers . Main thing for me was to know that i can
> do %) that using rpm. Very helpful was a note about --nodep.
> I have been trying to install netscape but it started asking for whole bunch
> of different packages and when i tried to reinstall them it triggered
> dependency n other and so on so on. so i finally gave up. and moved to lower
> version of browser.
>
> I don't quite understand the "dependency" thing. I understand that it
> basically "this need to be in place so that will work". But in case of glib
> libraries, i can create links and it should ( well, not a rule of thumb
> obviously ) work OK. At the same time if i do remove with --nodep check,
> than how can i find out if all progs will be alive?
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nathan J. Underwood [mailto:lists at cybertechcafe.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:31 PM
> > To: ale at ale.org
> > Subject: RE: [ale] KDE reinstall
> >
> >
> > Andy,
> >
> > I just wish that I could be of more help. As I
> > mentioned, I've just about
> > given up on RPM's (see my several earlier posts about Gentoo
> > :-). As long as
> > it's not a production box, and you're a bit inquisitive, it
> > should be a real
> > learning experience ;-). Keep shooting questions if you
> > like, and I'll try to
> > keep answering. I'm making no guarantee that the answers
> > will be right, but
> > they will be answers.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > Quoting "Zyman, Andy" <zymana at hra.nyc.gov>:
> >
> > > >This isn't a production box, right?
> > > no it is not :)))
> > > thank you for explanations. I'll have quite busy evening, i guess.
> > > //I hope it won't take me the whole weekend :)))
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Nathan J. Underwood [mailto:lists at cybertechcafe.net]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:24 PM
> > > > To: ale at ale.org
> > > > Subject: RE: [ale] KDE reinstall
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Andy,
> > > >
> > > > When you start uninstalling (the many facets of) kde,
> > > > you're probably going
> > > > to get a bunch of "kde is required by......" messages. If
> > > > you're using kdex,
> > > > and you remove it and reinstall kdex, most of them will /
> > > > should still work
> > > > (again, I'm definately not an rpm guru). You're going to
> > > > have to use the
> > > > --nodeps option (i'll let you figure out where :-) a couple
> > > > of times to get it
> > > > uninstalled. This isn't a production box, right?
> > > >
> > > > Quoting "Zyman, Andy" <zymana at hra.nyc.gov>:
> > > >
> > > > > Great. thank you Nathan.
> > > > > Will all xprograms "survive" this reinstall? or I'll have
> > > > to install them
> > > > > again?
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Nathan J. Underwood [mailto:lists at cybertechcafe.net]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:10 PM
> > > > > > To: ale at ale.org
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [ale] KDE reinstall
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You should be able to remove KDE, and reinstall via RPM.
> > > > > > The easiest way
> > > > > > to find out all of the settings for RPM is to do a 'man rpm',
> > > > > > but here's what I
> > > > > > would do (this, of course, comes with no warranty, expressed
> > > > > > or implied).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rpm -qa | grep [kK][dD][eE] <- This will find all of the
> > > > KDE 'stuff'
> > > > > > rpm -e <each of the packages> <- This will remove
> > the packages
> > > > > > rpm -ivh <new kde packages> <- this will install the new
> > > > > > packages, with verbose
> > > > > > output, and give hash marks so that you'll know if it
> > > > hangs somewhere
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, there are probably much better ways of doing it, but
> > > > > > I've strayed away from
> > > > > > RPM's lately (google for 'dependency hell'). Hope this helps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quoting "Zyman, Andy" <zymana at hra.nyc.gov>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nathan ,
> > > > > > > Sorry, forgot:
> > > > > > > RH8. I installed it from original CDrom while installing
> > > > > > the system. After
> > > > > > > that ( i guess it was KDE2) agent updated it to KDE3 ....
> > > > > > > The main 2 reasons to do that :
> > > > > > > 1. Just to see how to do this
> > > > > > > 2. I can't apply "schemes" and whole thing sometimes just
> > > > > > hangs, that i have
> > > > > > > to reboot box - i guess it is because i "played" with
> > > > > > settings and now can't
> > > > > > > do certain things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't have anything there which i would like to preserve.
> > > > > > But if you could
> > > > > > > please tell me where all customization settings go - that
> > > > > > would be nice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Nathan J. Underwood [mailto:lists at cybertechcafe.net]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:14 AM
> > > > > > > > To: ale at ale.org
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ale] KDE reinstall
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Which distro are you using? Do you have any
> > settings that
> > > > > > > > you want to retain?
> > > > > > > > How did you install it in the first place?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Quoting "Zyman, Andy" <zymana at hra.nyc.gov>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > guys, very simple question:
> > > > > > > > > how can i reinstall the KDE?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > can i do it using rpms?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank You
> > > > > > > > > Andy
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