[ale] Long ago off topic and wondering ever on... Defeated bythe offshoring of America....

[Josh Freeman]

Guys,
	while this has been an interesting diversion to some, please either
take it private or keep the subject line relatively the same. I'm tired
of editing my kill file.



On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 16:34, George Carless wrote:
> The Nazi party was in many respects a "left wing" party - your response
> only serves to highlight the confusion that all of these terms engender.
> Consider that the Nazi party was officially a Socialist party.  But
> purported political leanings do not necessarily map onto real-life
> practice; at any rate, I have already observed that few people (or
> parties) lie at either pole -- and I would suggest that "right wing" and
> "left wing" are no longer very useful terms, so polluted is the
> terminology (which has always, at any rate, been insufficient).  However,
> I was addressing the _literal_ meaning of the terms in question; they are
> not "my definitions", but the historically accepted meanings.
> 
> Regards,
> --George
> 
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Benjamin Scherrey wrote:
> 
> > You mean like the right wing nazi party? Certainly no radical views there... ahem. Consider the PLO,
> > IRA, and the Log Cabin Republicans. If you equate the terms in the manner you suggest then these
> > all defy categorization. Indeed, as a Libertarian I am very conservative in some respects and very
> > liberal in others and although you could never describe me as a moderate by your definitions I
> > would be in the middle of the road.
> >
> > 	Ben Scherrey
> >
> > 4/14/2003 10:44:22 PM, George Carless <kafka at antichri.st> wrote:
> >
> > >Well, erm, no; they're not "quite distinct".   "Left wing" means, by
> > >definition, "liberal".  "Right wing" means, by definition,
> > >"conservative".  The "left" have radical views.  The "right" have
> > >conservative views.  Obviously it's a continuum and very few people, if
> > >any, reside at the true poles, but when we're talking about confusion in
> > >terminology then.. it's important not to get the terminology confused.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >--George
> >
> >
> >
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