[ale] C#

[Mike Millson]

Good point - all my development is for websites and browser based
applications. You're right, I can tell it's slower for fat clients and
self-contained apps, but it's plenty fast enough for me. I use JEdit.

If speed is the most important issue issue and it cannot be a web-based app,
then it's hard to argue for Java. But I recommend considering a web based
application as much as possible (http://www.atsga.com/browadv.htm has a list
of advantages of web based apps).

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: John Wells [mailto:jb at sourceillustrated.com]
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:50 PM
To: mgm at atsga.com
Cc: dchambers at snapserver.com; ale at ale.org
Subject: RE: [ale] C#


What?  No evidence of it being slow?!?!

Maybe for web apps, but for fat clients or self-contained apps, it's a
snail...for example, take a look at all the *really* nicely designed
editors (jedit, for example) written in Java.  While the functionality
makes the speed hit worth it to me, there is quite a discernible
difference from apps written in C/C++ (even under 1.4.x).

The fact is, Java will always be slower, in order to accomplish
cross-platform capabilities.  You just have to decide whether you (or your
users) can/will live with the slowness.

If I were going for speed and ease of development, I'd go with C++/Qt.

John

Mike Millson said:
> I concur. I don't see any evidence of Java being slow or limited (on
> Linux or in general). I have used Java + Tomcat 4.x to interface w/
> MySQL and Oracle databases and parse large XML feeds and have been very
> impressed.
>
> I also agree w/ the earlier post: C# + linux = insanity.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Denny Chambers [mailto:dchambers at snapserver.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:01 PM
> Cc: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] C#
>
>
> Why not stick with Java? Running Java apps under the 1.3.x and 1.4.x
> JVMs are not that bad. All of those folks complaining about how slow it
> is, probably haven't used it much since the Java 1.x days. You shouldn't
> have any problems handling 100+ connections. Look at projects like
> Tomcat and other Web Application servers, these servers are designed to
> handle hundreds, even thousands of connections. If you want your app to
> be web based, I would still recomend Java. Servlet have proven to be
> very fast at servering dynamic web content. Better than C in cases, and
> much better than perl. Also Java gives you the portablility you need. It
> will also make things like internationalization much easier.
>
> If your going the web based route, add this site to your research:
>
> http://www.2020media.com/support/javavscgi.htm
>
> My $0.02,
>
> Denny
>
> cfowler wrote:
>
>>Right now I'm at the beginning of a large Java project.  I'm just
>> desiging forms for now.  But this is just graphics.  I'm doing research
>> as to the best way to go.  I need to be scalable when it comes to
>> threads and I believe that Java may bite me in the end. I want to
>> handle 100+ TCP connections into one client.
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 14:48, Geoffrey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>cfowler wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Anyone here using C# on Linux?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Why would you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
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