[ale] more on RedHat's Null desktop -- vent mode!

[James P. Kinney III]

The absolute best tool for accessing old floppies on a Linux box is the
command line stuff from the mtools collection. 

As for accessing the pics from a digital camera, gphoto is pretty good.
It has the smarts you're looking for to send the "gimme the pics"
command.

Yes, the command line is _very_ different from DOS. There are about 1300
more commands than DOS. Fortunately, most people (think cube drone here)
don't ever see CLI. They just push a mouse button over a pretty little
picture. And KDE and Gnome pictures look a lot better than the newest
WinXP pics do :)

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 14:52, Sean Kilpatrick wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 September 2002 01:13 pm, Charles Shapiro wrote:
> > (". . .corporate desktop and cube drones . . .") That would be me.
> > Making machines which anyone can sit down & find their way around on
> > regardless of window manager choice is a reasonable thing to do.
> 
> <START Rant>
> As someone moving to Linux from OS/2 I have to say the Linux
> desktop has a way to go to be useable by the moderately competent
> user migrating from a winbloze box.
> Simple example:
>   insert previously used floppy into drive and try to delete all
> but one file to make room for others that need to be moved via
> sneaker net.  If that floppy were previously used on a Win box,
> it's FORGETABOUTIT!!  The files can't be deleted. Joe NewLinuxUser
> can reformat the floppy but he can't delete the files. He has to be
> able to open a root account to change the permissions. (And know how
> to do that. Remember that Linux shell commands differ from DOS
> commands so new Linux user _must_ learn an entirely new set
> of commands. Until he does he is damn near helpless.)
> Result: instant frustration.
> 
> I bang my head against this sort of thing damn near daily on this RH
> Linux box.  Today, it's trying to pull pix from a digital camera.
> The Linux box can clearly see the camera on the USB port. (Using the
> KDE GUI to look at USB devices, I see the following:
> 
> -------------- <copied data> --------------------------------
> Vendor ID     0x4cb   (Fuji Photo Film Co., Ltd.)
> Product ID    0x100   (FinePix 4700 Zoom digital camrea) (_sic_)
> Revision
> 16.0
> 
> Speed         12 Mbit/s
> Channels      0
> Max. Packet
> Size          0
> ------------------- <end copy> -----------------------------
> 
> But I can't for the life of me figure out how to access the pix.
> 
> <fi>
> 
> <sigh>
> 
> Sean
> 
> PS I'm not happy about RedHat's decision on desktop GUIs. I like 
> my KDE and want to be able to access all its features. That means
> working through the KDE site, which means learning a helleva lot
> more about the underpinnings of Linux than I really want to.
> 
> 
> 
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