[ale] SSSCA rears its (ugly) head once more
Ian Kennedy
ikennedy at woa.com
Fri Mar 1 17:02:39 EST 2002
http://www.stoppoliceware.org/
has a good explanation of what sssca is about and how to fight it.
Ian Kennedy
Webmaster
World Airlines
>>> Swantje Willms <swillms at mail.sis.pitt.edu> 03/01/02 04:55PM >>>
I'm not sure I even understand what is involved. The copying of what does
this scheme protect?
The content of the drive? - That wouldn't make sense, because it would
make backups of data impossible...
(Certain) software? - That has nothing to do with the drive, really. It
can be supplied by the software if desired.
Can someone explain this copy-protection scheme thing?
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, George Johnson wrote:
> This scares me too!! This is why I am not a republi-crat or demo-cian. I
> would not be the person you are looking for to give any speach on this but I
> can give some sites where you can keep an eye on things like this that the
> main stream media will not report.
>
> www.wnd.com
> www.newsmax.com
>
> Keep an eye out on these sites. You will find all kinds of interesting and
> scary news items here.
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James P. Kinney III [mailto:jkinney at localnetsolutions.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:35 PM
> To: Charles Shapiro
> Cc: Atlanta Linux User Group (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [ale] SSSCA rears its (ugly) head once more
>
>
> It really scares the crap out of me to think that at some point in the
> nearing future, all of the stuff I use, all Open Source, could be
> outlawed for failing to comply with crap like this.
>
> On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 13:51, Charles Shapiro wrote:
> > If you haven't heard of it, the SSSCA (Security Systems Standards
> > Certification Act) would mandate that all new hard drives contain an
> > as-yet-undecided copy-protection scheme. Buying or selling a new drive
> > which was not so crippled would be a crime. It would also be a crime
> > to tamper with the copy-protection hardware or software on a disk drive.
> > Up to a half-million dollar fine or five years in jail for the first
> > offfense. This ain't law yet, but the time to act is now.
> >
> > "When Congress sits idly by in the face of these activities, we
> > essentially sanction the Internet as a haven for thievery"
> > Fritz Hollings (D-SC) Feb 28, 2002 (hearings re the SSSCA)
> >
> > Uh, maybe it's time to do an ALE meeting on "Progress toward outlawing
> > Open Source". Congress is really starting to scare me here. Any lawyers
> > or politicos in the house? I'd be glad to help out, but I don't really
> > feel qualified to do a full presentation.
> >
> > -- CHS
> >
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<DIV>Ian Kennedy<BR>Webmaster<BR>World Airlines<BR><BR>>>> Swantje
Willms <swillms at mail.sis.pitt.edu> 03/01/02 04:55PM >>><BR>I'm
not sure I even understand what is involved. The copying of what does<BR>this
scheme protect?<BR>The content of the drive? - That wouldn't make sense, because
it would<BR>make backups of data impossible...<BR>(Certain) software? - That has
nothing to do with the drive, really. It<BR>can be supplied by the software if
desired.<BR><BR>Can someone explain this copy-protection scheme
thing?<BR><BR><BR>On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, George Johnson wrote:<BR><BR>> This
scares me too!! This is why I am not a republi-crat or demo-cian.
I<BR>> would not be the person you are looking for to give any speach on this
but I<BR>> can give some sites where you can keep an eye on things like this
that the<BR>> main stream media will not report.<BR>> <BR>>
www.wnd.com<BR>> www.newsmax.com<BR>> <BR>> Keep an eye out on these
sites. You will find all kinds of interesting and<BR>> scary news items
here.<BR>> <BR>> George<BR>> <BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: James P. Kinney III [<A
href="mailto:jkinney at localnetsolutions.com]">mailto:jkinney at localnetsolutions.com]</A><BR>>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:35 PM<BR>> To: Charles Shapiro<BR>> Cc:
Atlanta Linux User Group (E-mail)<BR>> Subject: Re: [ale] SSSCA rears its
(ugly) head once more<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> It really scares the crap out of
me to think that at some point in the<BR>> nearing future, all of the stuff I
use, all Open Source, could be<BR>> outlawed for failing to comply with crap
like this.<BR>> <BR>> On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 13:51, Charles Shapiro
wrote:<BR>> > If you haven't heard of it, the SSSCA (Security Systems
Standards<BR>> > Certification Act) would mandate that all new hard drives
contain an<BR>> > as-yet-undecided copy-protection scheme. Buying or
selling a new drive<BR>> > which was not so crippled would be a
crime. It would also be a crime<BR>> > to tamper with the
copy-protection hardware or software on a disk drive.<BR>> > Up to a
half-million dollar fine or five years in jail for the first<BR>> >
offfense. This ain't law yet, but the time to act is now.<BR>> ><BR>>
> "When Congress sits idly by in the face of these activities, we<BR>>
> essentially sanction the Internet as a haven for thievery"<BR>> >
Fritz Hollings (D-SC) Feb 28, 2002 (hearings re the SSSCA)<BR>> ><BR>>
> Uh, maybe it's time to do an ALE meeting on "Progress toward
outlawing<BR>> > Open Source". Congress is really starting to scare me
here. Any lawyers<BR>> > or politicos in the house? I'd be glad to help
out, but I don't really<BR>> > feel qualified to do a full
presentation.<BR>> ><BR>> > -- CHS<BR>> ><BR>> >
---<BR>> > This message has been sent through the ALE general discussion
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for more info. Problems should<BR>> be<BR>> > sent to listmaster at ale
dot org.<BR>> ><BR>> --<BR>> James P. Kinney III
\Changing the mobile computing world/<BR>> President and
COO
\ one Linux
user /<BR>> Local Net
Solutions,LLC \ at a
time. /<BR>>
770-493-8244
\.___________________________./<BR>> <BR>> GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P.
Kinney III (M.S. Physics)<BR>> <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com><BR>>
Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7<BR>> <BR>>
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