[ale] need some input on tv capture cards
Geoffrey
esoteric at 3times25.net
Fri Dec 27 20:18:14 EST 2002
Calvin Harrigan wrote:
> Bad wording perhaps?
> It allows you to use your tv as a monitor.
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding something.
slap head... gotcha. I just reviewed the thread and noted the issue of
having an s-video out. Point is, he shouldn't need a converter as it's
s-video out right? Or is the plan to take the output of the s-video and
send it to a monitor??
I could see where he might need a converter if he's doing vga to the tv,
but he's saying he's got s-video out, which should be tv ready.
I've got the same on my card, but I've not used it. Actually it has
svga, digital (for flat panel) and s-video out.
>
>
> Calvin...
>
> On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 13:46, Geoffrey wrote:
>
>>Calvin Harrigan wrote:
>>
>>>It allows you to connect your computer to the TV.
>>
>>I can do the same without a vga ntsc converter. So I'm still wondering
>>what the purpose of it is.
>>
>>Tell me where I'm going wrong. cable is connected to the tuner card.
>> From there I can use something like streamer to do capture that has
>>nothing at all to do with vga. I can do this on a headless system. As
>>a matter of fact, I've got a headless system connected to a camera that
>>monitors my driveway. I could easily fire up streamer there and save
>>the content to the drive.
>>
>>
>>>Calvin...
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 21:16, Geoffrey wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>John Wells wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Found a note at http://www.freeplaytv.org/ that says I'll need a VGA to
>>>>>NTSC convertor because the video-out on a video card results in poor video
>>>>>quality. I currently have a Geforce2 card with S-video out.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone know if I'll truly need the vga-2-ntsc, or can I get by without?
>>>>>They're rather pricey at $95.00.
>>>>
>>>>Okay, I'm confused. Where would you use this device? The capture card
>>>>takes data straight from either s-video or rca. How does the vga
>>>>connector come into play??
>>>>
>>>>You can capture without having the VGA come into play at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>James P. Kinney III said:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I would bet that it will take a full 640x480 but at a lower frame rate.
>>>>>>Video capture is something that requires some serious hardware to get
>>>>>>good quality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>$50 retail is only a $20 card.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 18:04, John Wells wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hmmm...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At least when it comes to the ATI, the user manual says you can choose
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>from 4 presets when viewing (page 21 in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://mirror.ati.com/support/manualpdf/WonderVE.pdf):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>180x120
>>>>>>>240x180
>>>>>>>320x240
>>>>>>>640x480
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now, does this mean it will take a lesser resolution and "stretch",
>>>>>>>resulting in poorer picture quality? I'm a newbie when it comes to
>>>>>>>this ;-).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James P. Kinney III said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hmm. Capture cards in the $50 range are pretty weak. You will not be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>happy with the screen quality if viewed full screen on a tv. Neither
>>>>>>>of the two you listed will do 640x480 capture. 320x240 seems to be
>>>>>>>the max for the low end cards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 15:05, John Wells wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My plan is to setup a PVR system using x10's entertainment anywhere
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and a tv capture card. The x10 package will allow me to transmit
>>>>>>>the signal from my machine upstairs to the television down. I'll
>>>>>>>also likely use the card to watch a game or two while hacking ;-).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It just occurred to me after James' post to check stereo sound.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neither card has it. I may hold off and try to find one that does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Calvin Harrigan said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 14:41, John Wells wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Have a gift certificate from Circuit City, and want to pick up a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>tv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>capture card tonight. Their site lists two available:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>ATI Tech Wonder VE TV Card
>>>>>>>>>>>Brand/Model: ATE 100703102CCS
>>>>>>>>>>>$49.99
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hauppauge PCI Card "WinTV Go"
>>>>>>>>>>>Brand/Model: HAU 190
>>>>>>>>>>>$49.99
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Anyone have experience with these? Linux friendly? Which would
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you recommend?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>They both work. Both use the bt878 chipset.
>>>>>>>>>>I lean towards the Hauppauge cards though...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If you don't mind me asking what do you plan on doing with it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to watch tv, video cap, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Calvin...
>>>>>>>>>>
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