[ale] OT: H1B

[Dow Hurst]

Well said!!!!
Dow


Andrew Newton wrote:

> I've generally kept out of this too, but I'm thankful for this voice 
> of moderation.
>
> I agree that the Hotel Patel remark was wrong.  I know many Indians, 
> some in the tech sector and some in other jobs.  I can honestly say 
> that they are hard-working individuals, usually honest and upstanding, 
> and on average very decent people.
>
> I can also sympathize with American citizens with the same good 
> virtues who have lost their jobs.  Yeah, it sucks!  But turning 
> xenophobic isn't the answer.
>
> What we all want is a level playing field.  No special tax breaks.  An 
> honest wage for an honest days work.  And job security for a job well 
> done.  Surprizingly, it isn't just American's who want that.  
> Everybody does.
>
> And while I generally don't appreciate socialist or leftist jabs at 
> the rich, I think we can safely say that many, many of the top 
> managers of our American corporations have let us down.  They have 
> thought about the short-term and neglected both the long-term of their 
> own businesses and  our communities.
>
> -andy
>
> ahuitzot at mindspring.com wrote:
>
>> I usually do not reply to this kind of krap, but I will make an 
>> exception this
>> time.  I do think that the person who made the "hotel patel" comment 
>> was a bit
>> extreme, and I would possibly take that as a racist comment.
>> But on the subject, I will state, and this is from my experience and 
>> factual
>> evidence, I DID NOT LOOSE MY JOB DUE TO H1B VISAS.  I lost it because 
>> the CEO
>> of the company decided to OUTSOURCE the company's software 
>> development to
>> another country.  EVEN THE H1B'S where I worked LOST THEIR JOB.  THE 
>> H1B is
>> not the problem.  Its the corprate mentality to get the job done as 
>> cheap as
>> it can be, reguardless of the human factor that is killing the US 
>> economy and
>> our jobs.  The H1B's may be beneficial in other areas, I am sure they 
>> are not
>> just extending them because of the software industry (almost 
>> nonexistant one
>> at that), I am sure there are other industries in the US in dire need of
>> qualified workers, and since the colleges and technical schools have 
>> all been
>> pushing IT, there very well could be a shortage of qualified people 
>> in other
>> areas.  Of course I could also be talking completely out my ass on 
>> that one.
>>
>>
>> So how many people on this list actually lost their job due to an 
>> H1B?  Can
>> you prove thats why?
>>
>> Oh, and BTW, people with H1B's are people too, maybe if you got to 
>> know one
>> and became friends with one (like I did at my previous job) you may 
>> actually
>> decide to treat them like people and not outcasts.  Stop reacting 
>> from fear
>> and ignorance (of loosing your job or whatever) and instead act with
>> intelligence and kindness.
>
>

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