[ale] RedHat 8.0 praise - from a long time M$ user...
Dow Hurst
dhurst at kennesaw.edu
Wed Dec 4 10:29:42 EST 2002
What are the specs on your machine? Do you have lots of swap enabled?
Dow
Keith Morris wrote:
>Hi all! I figured I'd jump in on this discussion. I have for many
>years been a windows user and am currently the system admin for a
>company using primarily windows. I have dabbled in linux here and there
>for the last few years (starting at RH 5). I finally switched totally
>to linux at home and haven't looked back since. I am currently using RH
>8 on my home machine for my desktop OS. I basically use my machine for
>PHP/MySQL development, web, email, Quake 3, etc. Now, not having years
>of experience of the different flavors of linux in a production SERVER
>environment, I can't talk much about memory allocation for server
>processes, but I did do an experiment. . .
>
>I decided I wanted to try to MAKE my box crash...my machine is running
>apache 2, and mysql with php..so I started a series of queries with disk
>reading and writing from a php script on a database with nearly
>2,000,000 email addresses... while doing this I opened 30 instances of
>mozilla, OpenOffice writer(5 instances), OpenOffice Calc(5 instances),
>OpenOffice Presentations(5 instances), Evolution 1.2, gFTP, Anjuta,
>Forte Agent (running under Wine),mIRC (also under wine) started ripping
>a CD with grip, playing ogg with xmms...still no crash...in fact, it
>barely became less responsive. Only when I decided to start Quake 3 on
>top of all this did the machine choke down....it wouldn't start quake
>3(at least it didn't in the 2 minutes I waited) although it probably
>would have started had I waited long enough....it still didn't crash,
>just got a good deal less responsive...
>
>There's NO LOOKING BACK for me!!! Let WinXP try that with Internet
>Explorer, Word, Excel, PowerPoint IIS, MSSQL,Outlook,Windows Media
>Player, etc...YEAH RIGHT!
>
>Although this is probably more of a testament to Linux in general, I
>just have to say I like my RH8 best even after trying nearly all of the
>modern distros. Sure, it's a little quirky and you have to do some
>configuring to get some of the stuff the the other distros have out of
>the box (like mp3 and DVD playback, hello?!), but that's part of the
>fun.
>
>Wow...give me two beers and I'm running off at the keyboard. Thanks for
>the blab space.
>
>Peace.
>
>Keith Morris
>Creative Director
>Design / Effects
>IQ Television Group
>Atlanta, GA
>http://www.iqtv.com
>
>
>On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 17:21, Matty wrote:
>
>
>>I have noticed Bluecurve/Gnome/X eat up __TONS__ of RAM. Taking
>>a look at X, I see 58MB of total resident memory. If you subtract
>>off 12MB of shared memory pages, that leaves 46MB of RAM allocated
>>to the process. I do open a lot of windows, but that seems somewhat
>>excessive for a a server that controls your hardware and mouse
>>interactions. I am amazed going through the address space how many
>>libraries GTK+ apps use. Yikes!
>>
>>- Ryan
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 15:52, sangell at nan.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Well, and I can't believe I am about to say this as I have been a big
>>>RedHat Supporter, I am probably the most unhappy with a RedHat release at
>>>8.0 as with any release they have ever had. I have had some issues with the
>>>main thing I now use RedHat for and that is Dedicated Gaming servers. I was
>>>also not impressed with the fact that a custom install was much more, IMHO,
>>>"restricted". I like to trim the intstalls down to the bare minimum
>>>packages needed to run the apps I will add after intstall and it seemed to
>>>me that this was a little more compicated than with 7.3. Now with regards
>>>to a desktop environment, I will admit that the look is pleasing and the
>>>ability to find apps is more intuitive. However for my servers I am going
>>>back to 7.3 for now and just patch the apps I need up to current status.
>>>Also I have noticed that CPU utilization is higher on systems running
>>>comparable services with 8.0 vs 7.3 and I have already had one 8.0 system
>>>die, not sure yet what exactly went wrong as I have not picked the box up
>>>yet. Maybe OS related maybe not, the system will cease to provide any
>>>services but you can ping the Ethernet interface. Hmmmm. Anyway, I am sure
>>>in a lot of ways it is a great release, but I have had some issues with it
>>>and I normally love each release as it has become available.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>Eric Anderson talked me into getting RH 8.0 and loading it. Wow! This is
>>>really nice stuff. The UI is very unified, clean and understandable, for
>>>the first time I think. We have achieved desktop readiness - now for those
>>>droves of end-user apps!
>>>
>>>Hope you're having a great day!
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