[ale] RedHat 8.0 praise - from a long time M$ user...

Adrin haswes at mindspring.com
Tue Dec 3 23:56:12 EST 2002 

You should try the bug in Netscape.  The one were you click on the .doc file and try to
see if it can figure out what to do with the file before it finishes creating a temp file.
Which will be the size of what ever free space you had on your hard drive.

Adrin


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of Keith
> Morris
> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:32 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [ale] RedHat 8.0 praise - from a long time M$ user...
>
>
> Hi all!  I figured I'd jump in on this discussion.  I have for many
> years been a windows user and am currently the system admin for a
> company using primarily windows.  I have dabbled in linux here and there
> for the last few years (starting at RH 5).  I finally switched totally
> to linux at home and haven't looked back since. I am currently using RH
> 8 on my home machine for my desktop OS.  I basically use my machine for
> PHP/MySQL development, web, email, Quake 3, etc.  Now, not having years
> of experience of the different flavors of linux in a production SERVER
> environment, I can't talk much about memory allocation for server
> processes, but I did do an experiment. . .
>
> I decided I wanted to try to MAKE my box crash...my machine is running
> apache 2, and mysql with php..so I started a series of queries with disk
> reading and writing from a php script on a database with nearly
> 2,000,000 email addresses... while doing this I opened 30 instances of
> mozilla, OpenOffice writer(5 instances), OpenOffice Calc(5 instances),
> OpenOffice Presentations(5 instances), Evolution 1.2, gFTP, Anjuta,
> Forte Agent (running under Wine),mIRC (also under wine) started ripping
> a CD with grip, playing ogg with xmms...still no crash...in fact, it
> barely became less responsive.  Only when I decided to start Quake 3 on
> top of all this did the machine choke down....it wouldn't start quake
> 3(at least it didn't in the 2 minutes I waited) although it probably
> would have started had I waited long enough....it still didn't crash,
> just got a good deal less responsive...
>
> There's NO LOOKING BACK for me!!!  Let WinXP try that with Internet
> Explorer, Word, Excel, PowerPoint IIS, MSSQL,Outlook,Windows Media
> Player, etc...YEAH RIGHT!
>
> Although this is probably more of a testament to Linux in general, I
> just have to say I like my RH8 best even after trying nearly all of the
> modern distros.  Sure, it's a little quirky and you have to do some
> configuring to get some of the stuff the the other distros have out of
> the box (like mp3 and DVD playback, hello?!), but that's part of the
> fun.
>
> Wow...give me two beers and I'm running off at the keyboard.  Thanks for
> the blab space.
>
> Peace.
>
> Keith Morris
> Creative Director
> Design / Effects
> IQ Television Group
> Atlanta, GA
> http://www.iqtv.com
>
>
> On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 17:21, Matty wrote:
> > I have noticed Bluecurve/Gnome/X eat up __TONS__ of RAM. Taking
> > a look at X, I see 58MB of total resident memory. If you subtract
> > off 12MB of shared memory pages, that leaves 46MB of RAM allocated
> > to the process. I do open a lot of windows, but that seems somewhat
> > excessive for a a server that controls your hardware and mouse
> > interactions. I am amazed going through the address space how many
> > libraries GTK+ apps use. Yikes!
> >
> > - Ryan
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 15:52, sangell at nan.net wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, and I can't believe I am about to say this as I have been a big
> > > RedHat Supporter, I am probably the most unhappy with a RedHat release at
> > > 8.0 as with any release they have ever had. I have had some issues with the
> > > main thing I now use RedHat for and that is Dedicated Gaming servers. I was
> > > also not impressed with the fact that a custom install was much more, IMHO,
> > > "restricted". I like to trim the intstalls down to the bare minimum
> > > packages needed to run the apps I will add after intstall and it seemed to
> > > me that this was a little more compicated than with 7.3. Now with regards
> > > to a desktop environment, I will admit that the look is pleasing and the
> > > ability to find apps is more intuitive. However for my servers I am going
> > > back to 7.3 for now and just patch the apps I need up to current status.
> > > Also I have noticed that CPU utilization is higher on systems running
> > > comparable services with 8.0 vs 7.3 and I have already had one 8.0 system
> > > die, not sure yet what exactly went wrong as I have not picked the box up
> > > yet. Maybe OS related maybe not, the system will cease to provide any
> > > services but you can ping the Ethernet interface. Hmmmm. Anyway, I am sure
> > > in a lot of ways it is a great release, but I have had some issues with it
> > > and I normally love each release as it has become available.
> > >
> > >
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> > >                       "Matthew Brown"
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> > >                       <matthew.brown at co        To:       <ale at ale.org>
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> > >                       Sent by:                 Subject:  [ale] RedHat 8.0
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> > >                       ale-admin at ale.org
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> > >
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> > >
>
> > >                       12/02/2002 03:08
>
> > >                       PM
>
> > >                       Please respond to
>
> > >                       ale
>
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric Anderson talked me into getting RH 8.0 and loading it.  Wow!  This is
> > > really nice stuff.  The UI is very unified, clean and understandable, for
> > > the first time I think.  We have achieved desktop readiness - now for those
> > > droves of end-user apps!
> > >
> > > Hope you're having a great day!
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Matthew Brown, President
> > > CorData, Inc.
> > > O: (770) 795-0089
> > > F: (404) 806-4855
> > > E: matthew.brown at cordata.com
> > >
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