[ale] OT- Transition to fast access

[F. Grant Robertson]

Highly doubt it or not.  I'm a technical guy, I'm not a newbie, or a
neophyte. I don't claim to know everything but, what I do know I know well.
Yes the distance requirement is 18,00 ft by wire, (actually, it's 18,500).
However, there are ways to extend that distance.

 What I believe they are doing here (because I watched the lucent and
bellsouth guys tinker with the SLiC's demark for 2 weeks) is running fiber
to the SLiC'c (obviously, the very definition of SLiC involves fiber) and
running some sort of neighborhood DSLAM. And before someone speaks up, It's
not iFDDL either.

Trust me, I get or beat 150k/s down consistently and get 20k/s up right on
the nose.  How do I know I'm 36000 ft away?

 A: That's what bell has on record.
 b: At one point several years ago I fought bellsouth about the "sound"
quality of the line I was using for dialup (the very same line my dsl
currently runs on) and at that time, I got a _VERY_ green tech..  Having
tons of Bell experience (my _entire_ immediate family has been everything
from operators to frame foreman [my mother was the very first female within
Southern Bell to hold that position, in 1978] to level 59 mid management.) I
knew the lingo, and basicly threw the guy into glassy eyed luser mode.  At
that point, he did pretty much anything I asked..  We moved my pair at the
switching center to a pair that was formerly used for ISDN, _and_ we did a
field distance test (the big yellow Fluke box that does all the neat stuff).
Throwing that line into loopback at the switch and bouncing a signal down it
revealed that my line was 36,000 (and some change).  Now, I'm no physics
major, but I don't think the speed of light is any different in my
neighborhood than any other.

I'm generally pretty quiet on the list, and if I offer an opinion, I know
what I speak of.  But hey, yeah, no offense, right?

-G

And yes, I may not have my degree (yet) but, I'm pretty sure I know the
difference between 3,650 and 36,500.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Marcus [mailto:CharlesM at Media-Brokers.com]
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:23 PM
To: Ale (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [ale] OT- Transition to fast access


> From: F. Grant Robertson [mailto:f.g.robertson at alexiongroup.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:10 PM
>
>> Yes, I think it is a waste of time - I don't even think
>> they'd attempt an install at that distance.

> Not so fast there...  I'm _at_ 36,500 feet, and this email
> will go out over my DSL at 256k up/1.5 down. Depends on what
> equipment is in the area.

No offense, but I highly doubt it.  Every distance requirement I've ever
seen for ADSL is a *maximum* of 18,000 ft from the CO.  Anything more and
they won't even try - much less give you 1.5Mb down.  ADSL is very distance
sensitive, so if you are at 17,500 ft, there's no way you'll get 1.5Mb
speeds.

Maybe you're using some kind of new implementation or technology, but I
would think some of us here would have heard about it before now...

> If Bellsouth's fast access site says you qualify, you can
> get something reasonable.

Yes, but to qualify, you must be within 18,000 ft.  Are you sure you're not
at 3,650 ft?

Charles


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