[ale] Get paid for undelete on ext3 help

[Irv Mullins]

On Thursday 22 August 2002 08:26 pm, Joseph A. Knapka wrote:
> "James P. Kinney III" wrote:

> [scissors of brevity]
>
> > So, at this point, I don't recommend ANY journaling file systems for
> > anyone without a good, up and running backup system. In unix, rm is a
> > command, not a request!
>
> Indeed. I must say, I find the entire notion of an "undelete"
> function somewhat perverse. Why would one expect one's explicit
> order to *remove some files and free the occupied disk space*
> to be implicitly ignored by the system? Even on systems where
> file undeletion "works", like Windows et al, it only works
> if you get lucky and the space in question hasn't been
> reused for anything. If you *want* your "rm" command to
> be symbolic, then alias it to something that moves the
> files somewhere instead. Possibly that should be the
> default on desktop distros (but then you'd have millions
> of, "I just deleted ten gigabytes of crap off of my
> disk, but I still have no free disk space, what's up?"
> helpesk calls... if it ain't one thing it's another).
> I expect "delete, but don't *really* delete" has
> fragmentation and thus performance consequences, as
> well.

Indeed, what about other commands, such as cp, or >, or 
even the "save" and "save as" options in editors. Any of 
those can wipe out weeks of work in an instant.  Should 
those also "not really do" what you tell them to do?  I can 
see the results now:

> rm *
No. Your files are belong to us.

Irv



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