[ale] What were they thinking?

[JackM]

Might take a look at:


http://blackbox.alug.org/
http://www.xfce.org/


Jeffrey B Layton wrote:
> 
> I will second that comment. I've been using KDE since early 1.0.
> It has been my primary desktop during that whole time. Up to
> last week I was using a RH 6.2 system (with updates) and
> KDE 2.0.1. Then this weekend I reformatted and installed
> RH 7.1 with KDE 2.1.1. The speed difference is VERY noticeable.
> Doing anything in 2.1.1 is MUCH slower than anything in 2.0.1.
> My machine is a PIII/500 with 384 Megs of memory and a fast
> IDE. It shouldn't be this slow.
> 
> I hate to do, but after perhaps 3 years I'm going to have to
> switch desktops. I've tried icewm and liked it very much (OK
> it's not a desktop but a windows manager) but Gnome for
> me has ALWAYS been unstable. In fact, at work we have 5
> VERY highpowered Linux workstations running Gnome. About
> once a week I get a system lock-up due to Gnome (I haven't
> sent in any kind of bug report, but sifting through the logs and
> from the user's comments, it's pretty clear that Gnome is the
> culprit).
> 
> Does anybody have any suggestions for a good Window
> Manager or Desktop besides KDE or Gnome?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeff Layton
> 
> "Eric Z. Ayers" wrote:
> 
> > Believe me, I am a longtime KDE fan.  I am not making up the response
> > problems we had.
> >
> > But, our environment is sort of demanding.  We run it on a laptop with
> > about a 500Mhz processor and 128MB of RAM.  Just to give you an idea, at
> > the place where I work, our software has to run a bunch of motif GUIs,
> > about a dozen server processes.  We normally also run VMware to
> > demonstrate some MS-Windows interface compatibility.  Let's just say
> > that even without the VMware, the demo slowed to a crawl.
> >
> > It wouldn't be so notable, but we didn't have this problem with the
> > older gnome setup and the 1.x version of KDE.  In fact, 1.x KDE was our
> > preferred environment.
> >
> > -Eric.
> >
> > Jonathan Feldman wrote:
> > >
> > > Just wanted to weigh in with my 2c.
> > >
> > > I LOVE the new KDE.  It's not slow for me; I have
> > > sub-second response time.
> > >
> > > Well, OK, I have a 500Mhz processor and 128MB of RAM.
> > >
> > > But who's counting? :-D
> > >
> > > Seriously, are you SURE that this is a resource
> > > problem?  15-45 seconds for an xterm is a LONG time.
> > > The 200Mhz between our machines shouldn't make
> > > THAT much of a diff; and we have the same amount
> > > of RAM.
> > >
> > > FWIW, I'm running Slackware-current, XFree86 4.0.2.,
> > > and KDE 2.1.1.
> > >
> > > --Jonathan
> > >
> > > >>> "Eric Z. Ayers" <eric.ayers at mindspring.com> 05/06/01 12:42PM >>>
> > > I concur. The new KDE seems to be very bloated, and it seemed like
> > > things that used to work were broken.  I'm not saying that our software
> > > is NOT bloated, but the crux of the matter is that we cannot run our
> > > product demos on it, because the machine starts to thrash in the middle
> > > of the demo...
> > >
> > > Irv wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I got Mandrake 8.0 and RedHat 7.1 in yesterday's mail, and spent most of the
> > > > evening trying these out. While the installations are much improved on both of
> > > > them, the new KDE is so slow and bloated that it is unusable, at least on my
> > > > pc, (PII, 300mhz, 128megs ram).
> > > >
> > > > I can't wait 15 - 45 seconds for an xterm, or a browser window to
> > > > open, or an error message to pop up. I have work to do, so back to SuSE 6.4,
> > > > where everything happens more or less instantly.
> > > >
> > > > Are the KDE folks trying to do what Bill Gates couldn't do:  destroy Linux?
> > > > Or do they think everyone is running gigahertz processors?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Irv Mullins
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