Fwd: [ale] FW: linuxgruven

Tue Mar 13 01:41:03 EST 2001

Yuck!  Their website looks like it was done in Frontpage or MS Word.

-Jim P.

--- Derek <linuxdg at home.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey you guys, 
> 
> Just got finished talking to harry from atlanta, and he wanted me to
> alert 
> anyone anywhere about a new startup company based in Lombard IL that
> is a 
> possible spinoff of Linuxgruven (scam)[read below Linux Island
> resembles 
> Linuxgruven, coowned by former Linuxgruven management 
> http://www.linuxisland.com 
> ]
> ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
> Subject: [ale] FW: linuxgruven
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:33:38 -0500
> From: Chris Fowler <ChrisF at computone.com>
> To: "'ale at ale.org'" <ale at ale.org>
> 
> 
> 
> You guys were talking about Linuxgruven  I'm forwading an email I
> received.
> 
> Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry J Harshaw [mailto:hharshaw at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:50 AM
> To: ChrisF at computone.com
> Subject: linuxgruven
> Importance: High
> 
> 
> WARNING!! linuxgruven WARNING! by hharshaw
>  I have been in this class for four weeks and am a Devry student. I
> thought
> that I could get my foot in the door and work in the IT feild but
> this is a
> bunch of bull shit!
> 
> They will rob you of 3200 dollars of which I only paid 2500 back in
> November. They don't know where you will be working if asked.
> 
> They keep secrets from the class when ever we ask questions and argue
> with
> us that they can't discuss with us where we will be working.
> 
> If this isn't enough to convince you I will tell you that two weeks
> into the
> program the original teacher names Demetri Mouratis was replaced by a
> inexperienced women. Her name is Stephanie. The other teacher is
> Pedro. A
> spanish dude. Stephanie passed her exam one and a half weeks ago and
> is
> teaching us with no prfessional background.
> 
> The scam is they tell you that you have a job for 45000 per year but
> you
> need their certification or comprable SAIR.
> Stephanie cant teach in the afternoon. I am fighting to get my money
> back
> right now. Dont do it they will leave you high and dry and tell you
> that all
> the message boards under yahoo are full of disgruntal workers. Gee I
> wonder
> why.
> 
> Type in Yahoo search: linuxgruven
> 
> You will then be led to a bunch of links that discuss this matter.
>  I can be reached at h_harshaw at yahoo.com or call me at 770-420-9837
> There time is at an end and it ends with my last word
> 
> To give you a bit of how much money they are makin off of this figure
> about
> 15 to 20 students per class at an average of 2500 3900 dollars per
> student.
> That averages to around 45-50000 dollars per class they hold three
> classes
> per month everyday for a month.
> Now Three classes are 45000 * 60 students is 135000 dollars per
> month. It is
> different if they did not offer a job and this was a recognozed
> school but
> it is not and also their certification is not recognozed
> internationally not
> nationally. You can only work with in the company of Linux gruven.com
> The
> SAIR is the one you want that only costs you 100 dollars per test.
> This is
> normal. This SAIR test is recognized. Call me if you have any more
> questions. All I know is that They have to many secrets and they are
> collecting a whole lot of money for nothing.
> 
> They dont even give you a text book that is recognized. What they
> give you
> is a self compiled binder of all the stuff that is free over the
> internet
> anyway.
> They also give to you eight of the most common OS distributions of
> the Linux
> family. Don't be fooled this is also free and downloadable off the
> internet.
> 
> So you get nothing for your money. Not even a dedicated professional
> experienced professor that is woth at least 45000 dollars.
> I am not the only person that feels this way the classes before me
> and after
> me feel the same way they call me up complaining.
> They fucked up getting involved with me.
> 
> MAIL THIS TO ALL YOUR FREINDS
> 
> 
> 
> 
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>You guys were talking about Linuxgruven&nbsp; I'm
forwading an email I received.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Chris</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Harry J Harshaw [<A
HREF="mailto:hharshaw at hotmail.com">mailto:hharshaw at hotmail.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 12:50 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: ChrisF at computone.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: linuxgruven</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Importance: High</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

WARNING!! linuxgruven WARNING! by hharshaw 
 &nbsp;I have been in this class for four weeks and am
a Devry student. I thought that I could get my foot in the door and
work in the IT feild but this is a bunch of bull shit!

They will rob you of 3200 dollars of which I only paid
2500 back in November. They don't know where you will be working if
asked.

<P><FONT SIZE=2>They keep secrets from the class when ever we ask
questions and argue with us that they can't discuss with us where we
will be working.</FONT></P>

If this isn't enough to convince you I will tell you
that two weeks into the program the original teacher names Demetri
Mouratis was replaced by a inexperienced women. Her name is Stephanie.
The other teacher is Pedro. A spanish dude. Stephanie passed her exam
one and a half weeks ago and is teaching us with no prfessional
background.

The scam is they tell you that you have a job for 45000
per year but you need their certification or comprable SAIR.
 Stephanie cant teach in the afternoon. I am fighting
to get my money back right now. Dont do it they will leave you high and
dry and tell you that all the message boards under yahoo are full of
disgruntal workers. Gee I wonder why.

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Type in Yahoo search: linuxgruven </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>You will then be led to a bunch of links that discuss
this matter.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp;I can be reached at h_harshaw at yahoo.com or call
me at 770-420-9837</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>There time is at an end and it ends with my last
word</FONT>
</P>

To give you a bit of how much money they are makin off
of this figure about 15 to 20 students per class at an average of 2500
3900 dollars per student. That averages to around 45-50000 dollars per
class they hold three classes per month everyday for a month.

Now Three classes are 45000 * 60 students is 135000
dollars per month. It is different if they did not offer a job and this
was a recognozed school but it is not and also their certification is
not recognozed internationally not nationally. You can only work with
in the company of Linux gruven.com The SAIR is the one you want that
only costs you 100 dollars per test. This is normal. This SAIR test is
recognized. Call me if you have any more questions. All I know is that
They have to many secrets and they are collecting a whole lot of money
for nothing.

They dont even give you a text book that is recognized.
What they give you is a self compiled binder of all the stuff that is
free over the internet anyway.

They also give to you eight of the most common OS
distributions of the Linux family. Don't be fooled this is also free
and downloadable off the internet.

So you get nothing for your money. Not even a dedicated
professional experienced professor that is woth at least 45000
dollars.

I am not the only person that feels this way the
classes before me and after me feel the same way they call me up
complaining.

<P><FONT SIZE=2>They fucked up getting involved with me.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>MAIL THIS TO ALL YOUR FREINDS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp;</FONT>
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