[ale] good linux

[Davis, Ricardo C.]

There's a fine balance between keeping the operations' applications running
and keeping the system software in the support "sweet spot".  The bleeding
edge is for your PC at home or perhaps a spare Pentium 200 in the computer
room.  One of the nice things about Linux/Open Source is that test/staging
system costs are lower than closed-source systems.  Don't upgrade the OS on
your production servers until you've got the app environment well tested on
your staging system(s).

-Ricardo

P.S. Hope you enjoy PostgreSQL ... even though it has its quirks it is the
best RDBMS in the open source arena IMHO.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Smith [mailto:MSmith at webtonetech.com]
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:31 PM
To: 'Bao C. Ha'; 'Stephen Turner'; ale at ale.org
Subject: RE: [ale] good linux


	I can relate to this issue(bleeding edge) with Redhat.  I just
installed RH 7.1 and I was attempting to install the JDK.  I had to get a
beta of the JDK to work with 7.1.  I am now stuck attempting to install
Oracle 8.1.7 on 7.1.  It just hangs when installing....  I just consider
this a price I pay for going bleeding edge.  Things don't always work.  I am
now using postgres(after the thread on mysql).


Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Bao C. Ha [mailto:baoha at sensoria.com]
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:49 PM
To: 'Stephen Turner'; ale at ale.org
Subject: RE: [ale] good linux



My preference:

1. Slackware.  It has the simplest package management
system based on gziped tar balls.  This is also the
lowest common denominator of distributing software
between Linux, BSD and other Unix systems.  It is
also command-line based so you will learn a lot about
Unix itself.  GUI is nice but very restrictive.  The
only complaint I have is that Patrick uses a mixed 
BSD/System V setup, which sometimes confuses 
"newcomers".

2. Debian.  I like it not because of its humongous 
number of packages, very late release of stable
versions, its solid security, its unstable really
means unstable, blah...blah...  It is the Debian
community.  Once you have some experience with Linux,
join the community as a package maintainer.  You will
both learn programming and the Unix/Linux/Debian ways
of doing things.  Debian is somewhat a mirror of what
the Linux community was 8-9 years ago.  It is exiting
to learn cooperation, support and equality among fresh
and seasoned ones.  The worst thing that you can get
out is the gentle mentoring and dedication of guiding
you through the package maintaining process.  

I strongly dislike RedHat and its derivatives.  RedHat
distribution tends to be the cutting/bleeding edge of
technology.  The price for it is usually stabiliy and
security.  To use RedHat correctly, you will have to
be on their security mailing list and constantly 
monitoring any updates.  RedHat has been very good at
fixing them.  RedHat is actually the other side of
Linux where we are pushing the boundaries.  If you
understand RedHat ways of doing things, there should
be no problem.  

Bao

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ale at ale.org [mailto:owner-ale at ale.org]On Behalf Of Stephen
> Turner
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:55 AM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: [ale] good linux
> 
> 
> what linux distro do you reccomend and why?
> 
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