[ale] Linuxgruven

Wandered Inn esoteric at denali.atlnet.com
Wed Jan 24 19:10:54 EST 2001


Jeff Hubbs wrote:
> 
> Perry -
> 
> FWIW coming from me, any scheme that involves having you pay money up front
> for "training" is something you should run the other way from.

100% agreed.  And I've just finished a gig working with/for/around HR
folks.  The bottom line is, if you pay them to 'get' a job, which is
what they are offering, RUN FAST the other way.

> 
> - Jeff
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Perry [mailto:perryw at bellsouth.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:55 PM
> > To: ale at ale.org
> > Subject: [ale] Linuxgruven
> >
> >
> > Hi there, I was surfing through the archives and found some
> > posts from back
> > in October about Linuxgruven and how I should be weary of
> > them.  I was
> > curious as to what others had to say after an interview with
> > them yesterday.
> >
> > I was told that for their "Network Engineer" position that I
> > need to be a
> > certified LCA, http://www.linuxcertification.com, and that
> > they would offer
> > me the training for $3150 as well as a voucher for the 4
> > tests.  They told
> > me that I could either self study or take the class through
> > someone else to
> > become certified, taking their class is not necessary to
> > become employed
> > (if I was certified, he would have offered me a job
> > yesterday, or so he
> > said).  Since I'm not certified and am looking to break into the IT
> > industry, I figured that this would be a good opportunity.
> > But, common
> > sense has taken over and this whole setup sounds sketchy.
> >
> > Sitting there in the Lenox Towers waiting for the the
> > interviewer, I heard
> > the receptionist answer the phone for at least 2 other
> > companies.  No big
> > deal, small company shares HR office space with other
> > companies.  The test
> > to get invited to the class was amazing easy, about zero
> > questions on it
> > that dealt directly with linux, more about general hardware.
> >
> > Linuxgruven has an article on their webpage that is from the
> > St. Louis
> > newspaper, I checked up on that and it was indeed published.
> > Seems that
> > they have at least 1 big client, and I was told they signed
> > on with Turbo
> > Linux.  I called the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce and they
> > didn't have
> > anything on the company.  Called the Atlanta BBB and no
> > complaints have
> > been filed.  Call the St. Louis BBB and they have no closed
> > complaints, but
> > 3 pending.  The guy I spoke to has heard of the company and
> > is trying to
> > track down more information about them, but they have not
> > repsonded to a
> > letter he sent them.
> >
> > linuxcertification.com recommends 128 hours of classroom
> > contact for the
> > certification, Linuxgruven gives 80.  My pesimistic outlook
> > tells me that
> > they are hoping people may fail the tests and they'll be up the 3
> > large.  Pass the tests, and according to a contract they sign
> > before the
> > class begins, and you have a job for $45,000 along w/ 401K, health,
> > etc.  Enticing to say the least.
> >
> > Has anyone had any further experience with the company?  Is
> > their class any
> > good?  Anyone in Atlanta offering the LCA class?  Any advice?
> >  I'm about to
> > call back to see if I am 'invited' to the class and I'm going
> > to try and
> > push some more info out of the guy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -- perry
> >
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