[ale] uptime?

[Jim Popovitch]

> There are plenty of things for us (Linux enthusiasts)
> to brag about without resorting to using uptime statistics.

Agreed, but in the interest of continuing your flame war....

> Uptimes don't mean sh*t!!! 

Agreed again, until you realize that absence of an uptime is what
impacts your customers/clients/co-workers and ultimately a bottom line
somewhere.

I have to object to your examples of stable WinNT 'systems'.  WINS &
DNS are minor (majorly minor) apps.  You might have a leg to stand on
if you could say the same thing about a WinNT webserver (IIS or
Apache), and more so if it was one that did something productive.

-Jim P.
 

--- Jonathan Rickman <infosec at alltel.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Wandered Inn wrote:
> 
> > The point is, extended uptimes speaks of stability and robust
> kernel and
> > application code.  One of the problems I believe NT has is memory
> > leaks.  I used to have to run NT on my laptop, and it would just
> plain
> > go brain dead after a while.
> 
> In the interest of getting a good flamewar started...
> 
> I actually have 2 NT4 SP4 boxen running WINS/DNS (internal only) that
> have somehow managed to stay up since 04/21/2000. In contrast, a
> Samba
> server running on identical hardware only lasted 4 months. After some
> analysis on the box in question, I believe I've found a faulty power
> supply feeding "dirty juice" to the Linux box. To make a long story
> short...
> 
> Uptimes don't mean sh*t!!! 
> 
> I've seen HP-UX machines run for a year at a time, only to crash HARD
> 2
> mos after the next reboot. I have friends in the military who run
> NT4/Exchange 5.5 boxes that run for 6-8 months at a time without so
> much
> as a hiccup. I've also seen Linux machines run for over a year. But
> I've
> also seen Linux machines crash and burn. There are so many factors
> involved in maintaining uptime that it's not worth attempting to
> compare
> OS statistics. 
> 
> I'll have to say that it's been my experience that Linux/BSD systems
> do
> seem to run longer. I've never personally seen a BSD box crash.
> However, I
> think the hardware, system load, and configuration have much more to
> do
> with it than the OS. There are plenty of things for us (Linux
> enthusiasts)
> to brag about without resorting to using uptime statistics.
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Rickman
> X Corps Security
> http://www.xcorps.net
> 
> 
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