[ale] About that firewall machine [Was]Re: [ale] unidentified processes

Tom Wiencko tew at wiencko.com
Wed Dec 19 08:20:00 EST 2001


Check out Harbor Freight Tools.  I recently bought a clamp multimeter
there that handles up to 1000A for $15.

Geoffrey wrote:
> 
> John Wells wrote:
> >
> > I'm interested in power consumption as well.  I've
> > finally got my laptop router working well, but I
> > really hate to leave it on 'round the clock if I'm
> > throwing money out the window.
> >
> > I'm assuming Radio Shack would be the place to find a
> > meter like this?
> 
> Yeah, but I've not seen a cheap amp meter.  Standard vom meters you can
> get for $10 at radio shack don't usually handle large currents ac
> currents.  I've not priced them in a while, but last time I checked,
> they run > $100.
> 
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> > --- Geoffrey <esoteric at 3times25.net> wrote:
> > > Thompson Freeman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I'm familiar with at least one of the
> > > broadband routers, and if it
> > > > wasn't this late I could remember which of them I
> > > set my daughter up
> > > > with. 8-/. And the '486 idea certainly has cost
> > > benefits. My goal here,
> > > > however, is more aligned with having open source
> > > control with minimal or
> > > > near minimal power consumption. I'm not certain to
> > > go down this route, but
> > > > I find it very interesting (especially when I look
> > > at the nest of power
> > > > cables crawling around behind the desk, and under
> > > some of the other
> > > > furniture around here. I haven't tripped the
> > > circuit breakers yet, but
> > > > I've got to be grazing the edge around here.)
> > >
> > > Yeah, I know how it is.  Fortunately, I've recently
> > > moved to a new
> > > home.  I'm putting together an office in the
> > > basement, which means I've
> > > got free rein of the place.  I've rewired this room,
> > > adding two
> > > circuits, one for my computers, another for all else
> > > (lights, shredder
> > > and such).  I've added a wall and placed all my
> > > boxes behind it, so as
> > > to reduce the noise.  It's still in the works, but
> > > it's getting there.
> > > I've come pretty far from working off a laptop while
> > > sitting on a
> > > beanbag. :)
> > >
> > > As far as the power issue though, I don't know how
> > > much current the
> > > average computer pulls, but understand, devices only
> > > pull as much juice
> > > as they need.  The power supply might be rated at 15
> > > amps, but you're
> > > not pulling that.  The box will generally pull the
> > > most power when it's
> > > powered up.  If you've got a headless 486 with two
> > > nics, the amount of
> > > power consumed is going to be very little.
> > > Certainly more then some
> > > imbedded device though.  Curious as to whether or
> > > not it might be
> > > possible to run a couple of boxes from a single
> > > power supply.  I would
> > > expect that it could handle the load, just a matter
> > > of rigging the
> > > proper connections.
> > >
> > > I guess I could just stick a meter on one of these
> > > boxes and really get
> > > a decent measure.  For me, it's more the noise and
> > > heat generated then
> > > the power used.  Anyone ever actually measured the
> > > amount of current
> > > their box pulls???
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Until later: Geoffrey         esoteric at 3times25.net
> > >
> > > "...the system (Microsoft passport) carries
> > > significant risks to users
> > > that
> > > are not made adequately clear in the technical
> > > documentation available."
> > > - David P. Kormann and Aviel D. Rubin, AT&T Labs -
> > > Research
> > > - http://www.avirubin.com/passport.html
> > >
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> --
> Until later: Geoffrey           esoteric at 3times25.net
> 
> "...the system (Microsoft passport) carries significant risks to users
> that
> are not made adequately clear in the technical documentation available."
> - David P. Kormann and Aviel D. Rubin, AT&T Labs - Research
> - http://www.avirubin.com/passport.html
> 
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