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[will at mindspring.net]

"Williams, Jim" <jwilliam at accu-tech.com> writes:

> applied engineering but I feel we are getting a good mix of Applied and
> theoretical science in this CS dept. We definitely do not spend as much time
> with Calculus and such but I was not looking for a Math minor either.  Of

<ahem> Unfortunately, the two are totally and completely
inseperable. Trying to separate the two is like getting a degree in
literature without a good grounding in grammar.

> gain employable skills quickly(I enjoy eating).  I figure I will try to get
> deep into the theory if I am interested in grad school or research on my
> own.

But it *should* be the other way arround. The intracaies of systems
management have changed a hell of a lot in the last 9*10^8
seconds. The mathmatics and theory behind them haven't. Given a
relitively short period of time, one can learn a new language,
assuming one knows the theory behind it.

"Geoff Harrison" <mandrake at mandrake.net> writes:
> 
> That's such a shame, too.  I talked to someone who is a currently enrolled
> freshman at tech about the new intro classes.  They're teaching HTML
> as a part of the CS curriculum?  But then again a lot of my friends
> who are also recent grads come out not being able to thing in anything
> but OOP models.  Limiting yourself to one mode of thinking is always too
> inhibitive.  Which is why I always want to prove people wrong when they
> say there's only one way to do something.
> 

I go to UGA. The Math and CS departments are for all intends and
purposes, one in the same. This shows in the curriculum. There is a
database class. SQL isn't taught. Hash searching algorythms are
(durring the class you write, from scratch, a RDBMS). This has a hell
of a lot to do with the fact that the Math department is better than
the CS department (3 PIAS alums), so almost everyone double majors,
getting a degree in CS to eat, and math, because, well, it's cool.

The Word fundimentals, and WIN 1001 are relegated to the MIS school,
which is part of the buisiness school. MIS majors rank between pond
scum and convicted felons on the social latter. They get heckled if
they go into the CS labs. (FWIW, they are only given accounts on the
windows machines used in first quarter classes. The sun workstations
are reserved for the pure of soul).

If you're interested, check out
http://bulletin.uga.edu/bulletin/prg/mgmt_info_systems_bba_req.html.

It's sad.

Not trying to start a flamewar here, just offering a different
perspective. I have a great deal of respect for SPSU and GATech.

Will
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