<html><head></head><body><div>Starting to sound more like a troll with each post on this. Might want to step back and take long, slow, deep breath.</div><div><br></div><div>Of course the secret society _I'M_ in wrote a systemd plugin that scans for specific usernames and promptly fails to start random portion based on the database. Litt is in the database of course. Just cat /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax_perf. Any value higher than 0 is the database key value found. If the register doesn't show up at all, your ID is on the list and you are blocked from ever having a working systemd installation. Mark Shuttleworth personally signed off on this. I was quite surprised.</div><div><br></div><div>On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:54 -0400, Steve Litt via Ale wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>On Sun, 20 May 2018 20:56:08 -0400</pre><pre>Solomon Peachy <<a href="mailto:pizza@shaftnet.org">pizza@shaftnet.org</a>> wrote:</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></pre><pre>On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 08:33:45PM -0400, Steve Litt via Ale wrote:</pre><pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></pre><pre>So I let others say it. And isn't it interesting that the botched</pre><pre>shellscript and systemd are from the same folks, and they're the</pre><pre>folks who have no problem at all with bringing complexity to</pre><pre>GNU/Linux (soon to be systemd/Linux). </pre><pre></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Nevermind this bug predates systemd's existence, isn't the first time </pre><pre>it's happened [1], and this particular issue (and the entire class) </pre><pre>wouldn't have occurred had systemd's networking infrastructure been</pre><pre>in use.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>I get you don't like systemd, but please, stick to the actual facts?</pre><pre></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Fact: The botched shellscript and systemd ARE from the same folks,</pre><pre>Redhat, just like I said. I was sticking to the facts.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Fact: I never said anything about which predated the other, but as long</pre><pre>as we're playing the predating game, this smoking gun predates systemd:</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><a href="http://asay.blogspot.ru/2006/10/interview-with-red-hat-cto-brian.html">http://asay.blogspot.ru/2006/10/interview-with-red-hat-cto-brian.html</a></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Complexity as a profit center, straight from the mouth of the then RH</pre><pre>CTO. We always knew about the means and opportunity, now we see, for a</pre><pre>FACT, the motive. Direct from a top Redhat exec. Perhaps if they'd spent</pre><pre>less juice complexifying systemd, they could have QA'ed their</pre><pre>shellscripts.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>SteveT</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Steve Litt </pre><pre>June 2018 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting</pre><pre><a href="http://www.troubleshooters.com/28">http://www.troubleshooters.com/28</a></pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Ale mailing list</pre><pre><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org">Ale@ale.org</a></pre><pre><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a></pre><pre>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at</pre><pre><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a></pre><pre><br></pre></blockquote><div><span><pre><pre>-- <br></pre>James P. Kinney III
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