<html><head></head><body>My gray beard head is doing pretty OK learning new stuff. Even systemd and docker and firewalld and selinux.<br>
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But, yeah, ansible is an all in one solution for running systems. So's spacewalk, and the odd collection of bash scripts I've accumulated over the years. I've seen systems controlled by git (ok. That was pretty cool).<br>
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Ever noticed how the solution to all problems is based on a solution provider's comfort tool? DBAs put everything in a database. Perl people use perl, java people (need therapy)..., etc.<br>
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ifconfig is deprecated and not installed by default having been replaced with ip. Does tons more, complicated syntax compared to ifconfig. <br>
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But, hey! What ever floats the boat that ships with permissions to see, use, modify, and redistribute the source code.<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 20, 2018 8:33:45 PM EDT, Steve Litt via Ale <ale@ale.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">Yeah, if *I'd* said it, then it would have just been the ravings of a<br>graybeard scared-to-learn Linux wannabe poser systemd hater.<br><br>So I let others say it. And isn't it interesting that the botched<br>shellscript and systemd are from the same folks, and they're the folks<br>who have no problem at all with bringing complexity to GNU/Linux (soon<br>to be systemd/Linux).<br><br>SteveT<br><br><br>On Sun, 20 May 2018 18:32:21 -0400<br>Jim Kinney <jim.kinney@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> A generic large tool to implement a simple task. Sounds like systemd<br> to me<br> <br> :-)<br> <br> Of course but that requires a run on ALL machines. By simply changing<br> ttl on the dhcp server to 5 minutes, waiting 24 hours, make the<br> change, wait 5 minutes, test, change ttl to 24 hours.<br> <br> On May 20, 2018 10:00:10 AM EDT, Steve Litt via Ale <ale@ale.org><br> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">On Thu, 17 May 2018 13:47:33 -0400<br>Jim Kinney via Ale <ale@ale.org> wrote:<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Thu, 2018-05-17 at 13:12 -0400, Solomon Peachy via Ale wrote: <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:46:12AM -0400, DJ-Pfulio via Ale<br> wrote: <br></blockquote> In the article, they talk about servers and mysql ... who would run<br> those on dhcp? Serious question - who and why?<br> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> In networks I've administered, everything but the DHCP server and<br> the core routers has their (static!) addresses assigned via<br> DHCP. <br></blockquote> <br> +1<br> <br> Makes network changes easy <br></blockquote><br>Couldn't you accomplish the same thing using Puppet, Chef or Ansible?<br><br><br>SteveT<br><br>Steve Litt <br>June 2018 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting<br><a href="http://www.troubleshooters.com/28">http://www.troubleshooters.com/28</a><br><br><br><hr><br>Ale mailing list<br>Ale@ale.org<br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a> <br></blockquote> <br></blockquote><hr><br>Ale mailing list<br>Ale@ale.org<br><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></pre></blockquote></div><br>
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