<html><head></head><body><div>Robert mentioned earlier this week that the ale-jobs list is offline. He will fix it asap.</div><div><br></div><div>If there are jobs people have in the interim, please post to the ale list. Job notices are always welcome!</div><div><br></div><div>mailman doesn't like being in a hosted environment with multiple domains in email service. So ale server runs as a vm.</div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, 2018-02-22 at 13:27 -0500, Chuck Payne via Ale wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Ok, I don't mind helping just let me know. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Lightner, Jeffrey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:JLightner@dsservices.com" target="_blank">JLightner@dsservices.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I don’t know about that. The mail lists were migrated last year and the 07-Nov-2017 email from Jim Kinney said there were issues with SPF and suggested they
had just cleared it from spam mail lists. Today I realize my reply in thread that day was also bounced “waiting for moderator approval” like my later 23-Jan-2018. As noted the test Jim sent on 07-Nov is the last one I actually got FROM ale-jobs.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">However, I do still get monthly reminders for both lists showing my login credentials. That doesn’t come from ale-jobs itself though.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jeffrey C. Lightner</span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=2300+Windy+Ridge+Pkwy%0D+Suite%0D+_600_&entry=gmail&source=g">2300 Windy Ridge Pkwy</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<i><a href="tel:(678)%20460-3603" value="+16784603603" target="_blank">678-460-3603</a></i></span><span lang="PT" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><a href="mailto:jlightner@dsservices.com" target="_blank"><i><span lang="PT" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">jlightner@dsservices.com</span></i></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lightner, Jeffrey; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Edward O. Holcroft<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] OT ALE jobs<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The last time I tried to post something to Ale Jobs was on 23-Jan-2018 and I got a message saying
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Any time I’ve gotten that such a message I give up. Despite the “moderator” mentioned in the return,
I’ve never yet seen any message with a response like that either get forwarded to the list or an explanation of why it was denied. It makes me think no one actually gets notifications to moderate emails.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ale [mailto:</span><a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">ale-bounces@ale.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Edward O. Holcroft via Ale<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ale] OT ALE jobs</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Edward O. Holcroft</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
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Construction Consultants & Engineers <br>
<a href="https://maps.google.com/?q=11695+Johns+Creek+Parkway,+Suite+250+%0D+Johns+Creek,+GA+30097&entry=gmail&source=g">11695 Johns Creek Parkway, Suite 250</a><br>
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See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br>
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Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux.<br>
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</pre></div></blockquote><div><span><pre><pre>-- <br></pre>James P. Kinney III
Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
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