<html><head></head><body><div>On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 13:00 -0800, Alex Carver via Ale wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>
I think if systemd had been spearheaded by anyone other than Pottering
it probably would have gotten an improved reputation or at minimum would
have had an opportunity to demonstrate itself and sell the idea on the
merits. There are plenty of people that improve the things we use but
are not even remotely as sour as Pottering. For systemd, Pottering's
previous actions with Pulse Audio basically guaranteed that he burned
the bridge before he crossed it.
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</pre></blockquote><div><span><pre><pre>-- <br></pre>James P. Kinney III
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