<html><head></head><body>Gpl v3 closes the code as a service loophole. V2 allowed a service provider to use altered gpl code to do things for customers on the the providers server hardware. The service providers never provided any code to customers and thus never triggered the release of their changes. Google has been adamant that if the kernel is changed to a v3 license, they will fork the last v2 release and go dark.<br>
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Recently, it was reported that Google is working on their own custom kernel.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On October 4, 2017 5:49:57 PM EDT, DJ-Pfulio <djpfulio@jdpfu.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">GPLv3 still lets facebook, google, twitter use the code, provided they don't<br />ever distribute it, giving nothing back.<br /><br />The AGPL means they would have to share, regardless.<br /><br />OTOH, as a business person, I'd stay away from all GPL code and stick with BSD,<br />Apache, MIT, and similar licensed code. Like Apple, Roku, and others have done.<br /><br />It isn't my place to tell any developer which license they should release their<br />code under and I'm appreciative for all the work BSD, Apache, and MIT licensed<br />code has provide to lots of people over the years.<br /><br />On 10/04/2017 05:13 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> I like GPL v3<br /> <br /> On Wed, 2017-10-04 at 17:07 -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"> Why not the AGPL?<br /><br /><br /> On 10/04/2017 03:43 PM, Joey Kelly wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"> On 10/04/17 14:06, Jim Kinney wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"> Yikes! And on a LINUX group, even :-( FreeBSD is the abomination license and<br /> code that allowed Apple to Embrace and Extend to become the triple-high<br /> walled garden that they are. <br /></blockquote> <snip><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"> It's not FreeBSD's fault except for the license that says "Here! Have fun!<br /> It's OK to be a profiteering dick of the work of others. We don't care.". <br /></blockquote> Full disclosure: I write code and always use GPL v2 if I release it, no<br /> exceptions: <a href="https://github.com/mmlj4">https://github.com/mmlj4</a> (among other places). <br /></blockquote> <br /></blockquote></blockquote><hr /><br />Ale mailing list<br />Ale@ale.org<br /><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br />See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br /><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br /></pre></blockquote></div><br>
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