<html><head></head><body>Doh!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On September 11, 2017 6:40:11 PM EDT, Chuck Payne &lt;terrorpup@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div dir="auto">Chuck, not Check&nbsp;</div><br /><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:20 PM Jim Kinney &lt;<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>What I love about ALE :-)</div><div><br /></div><div>OK. We have some offers on the table for space and bandwidth. </div><div><br /></div><div>I am upgrading my business class line to much faster and I have hosting space.</div><div>Check Payne and Mike Trauche have also offered  space and bandwidth.</div><div><br /></div><div>This will take some interesting coordination of the keepers of the DNS listing but it makes sense.</div><div><br /></div><div>I would like to propose that we look at a three-way, round robin hosting. The web stuff is easy. The email is more complicated.</div></div><div><div><br /></div><div>On Mon, 2017-09-11 at 11:55 -0400, leam hall wrote:</div></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">Do they have low $$ options? Do we need something more than a small LinBit instance or similar?<br /><br /></div><div class="gmail_quote">I'm all for thanking and supporting them if we can.<br /></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br />On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Jim Kinney <span>&lt;<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br /></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Crisis time. Ale has to move its donated service _now_.<br />
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Coloblox is sadly pulling the plug on its donated services.<br />
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We need a colo space that will donate a machine and bandwidth. My basement lacks redundant power and/connectivity. I can host temp as required. I'm looking through hardware now to see what I can build up.<br />
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Many thanks to Xilogix/Coloblox for their many years of support. <br /><br /><div style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
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<b>From:</b> Coloblox Network Operations &lt;<a href="mailto:netops@coloblox.com" target="_blank">netops@coloblox.com</a>&gt;<br />
<b>Sent:</b> September 11, 2017 11:00:00 AM EDT<br />
<b>To:</b> Coloblox Network Operations &lt;<a href="mailto:netops@coloblox.com" target="_blank">netops@coloblox.com</a>&gt;<br />
<b>Subject:</b> Removal of Coloblox Services<br />
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">To all it may concern,</div><br style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial" /><div style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Please make arrangements to migrate your data/equipment out of the Coloblox data center by&nbsp;the first week of October. After years of supporting opensource/community projects (and many years before that by the previous owners) we have made the decision to stop it.</div><br style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial" /><div style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">We have never&nbsp;been out to make a profit off our donated services but when we provide resources that are abused and taken advantage of in ways that have zero and even negative benefit to our company it has to stop somewhere.</div><br style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial" /><div style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">We have donated server hardware, bandwidth, colocation space, and even roof access for satellites, HAM radios, aircraft trackers, etc, and have been mostly met with illegal torrent downloads, for profit web/VPS&nbsp;hosting, DDOS attacks, random items like bitcoin miners appearing in donated colo space, and even a simple lack&nbsp;of credit given to our company for eating the costs associated with this. We've always been intrigued how people in the opensource community will throw the biggest fit if someone doesn't release modified code back to the community, or their copyright isn't kept perfectly in place with T's crossed and I's dotted, but those same people make little to no effort to acknowledge their colo space, power, and bandwidth is all donated by some company they never bother to mention or just figure that 1Gbit port is there for whatever they want like Game of Thrones torrents which at that point copyright suddenly doesn't matter to them. This would be different if it was isolated to one user, but it's the general overview of most&nbsp;users. Some users download torrents and some don't, but when we see a 10 Amp spike on a&nbsp;power circuit and find bitcoin miners it just shows abuse comes in may forms.</div><br style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial" /><div style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">That said, we've had enough. If you have data stored on any servers/VPSs in our facility please migrate/backup anything you'd like to keep as servers will be shutdown on<span>&nbsp;</span><span class="m_5311237145529216326m_-1636081856210981517Object" id="m_5311237145529216326m_-1636081856210981517OBJ_PREFIX_DWT476_com_zimbra_date" style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"><span class="m_5311237145529216326m_-1636081856210981517Object" id="m_5311237145529216326m_-1636081856210981517OBJ_PREFIX_DWT479_com_zimbra_date" style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none">Oct 6</span></span>. If you have physical equipment in the data center please make arrangements to pick it up by&nbsp;<span class="m_5311237145529216326m_-1636081856210981517Object" id="m_5311237145529216326m_-1636081856210981517OBJ_PREFIX_DWT477_com_zimbra_date" style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none"><span class="m_5311237145529216326m_-1636081856210981517Object" id="m_5311237145529216326m_-1636081856210981517OBJ_PREFIX_DWT480_com_zimbra_date" style="color:#005a95;text-decoration:none">October 6th</span></span>.</div><br style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial" /><div style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">We are sorry it's come to this but for something&nbsp;that has never gained us a customer referral or even some useful acknowledgment of our company, it's obviously not worth the hassle of dealing with&nbsp;various forms of abuse that does nothing but increase.</div><div style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br /></div><div style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">--</div><div style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Network Operations</div><div style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Coloblox Data Centers</div><span class="m_5311237145529216326HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div style="color:#000000;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br /></div></font></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><span class="m_5311237145529216326HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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</blockquote></div></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br /></div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Terror PUP a.k.a<br />Chuck &quot;PUP&quot; Payne<br />-----------------------------------------<br />Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux.<br />-----------------------------------------<br />openSUSE -- Terrorpup<br />openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member<br />skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup<br />freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein<br />Register Linux Userid: 155363<br />&nbsp;<br />Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, &nbsp;an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try.</div></div>
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