<html><head></head><body><div>Summary: Those rules were guidelines at best that were promptly violated by nearly everything ever written of any size or complexity and always with a decent reason at the time.</div><div><br></div><div>Styles change. Wide ties. Skinny ties. Bow ties. No ties. Some people see systemd as bondage ropes. Some see it as a tool that automates stuff so they don't have to. Who's right? Depends on where the rope burns came from.</div><div><br></div><div><snark> Gnome _had_ to use systemd so some of it's backend crap that is long-time flakey will get restarted when it dies suddenly </snark> (said the long-time gnome user :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Hmm. I've never used any of the BSDs. The initials were always associated with Blue Screen of Death for me.</div><div><br></div><div> Fri, 2017-09-08 at 14:09 +0000, Adam Jimerson wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">As for the BSDs they are great (personal bias) but I would consider them more of a UNIX clone/successor than anything at this point. Also even the BSDs are not safe from breaking the "Do one thing..." philosophy there have been multiple attempts to port/add something SystemD/LaunchD like to at least FreeBSD, don't remember about any of the other BSDs.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:01 AM Adam Jimerson <<a href="mailto:vendion@gmail.com">vendion@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">> <span style="color:rgb(33,33,33)">Thanks for the reminder for why I don't use either Emacs or Apache.</span><div><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33)"><br></span></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33)">Sorry but that is a pretty week statement unless you use something that can only edit text/hex/whatever your working with files and/or only using a web server only capable of service static files (html, css, js, misc files, etc)/a dedicated proxy server/a dedicated caching server.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33)"><br></span></div><div><font color="#212121">Nginx even violates the "Do one thing and do it well" as it is a web server that works well as forward/reverse proxy and it has really good caching support. Same for some of the smaller more obscure web servers like </font>lighttpd and Caddy to name a few.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 9:25 AM DJ-Pfulio <<a href="mailto:DJPfulio@jdpfu.com" target="_blank">DJPfulio@jdpfu.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks for the reminder for why I don't use either Emacs or Apache.<br>
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> UNIX is dead. Linux isn't UNIX. It's only UNIX-like.<br><br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><pre>
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